Creepy furry "filmographers"

[lunar_prodigy]

i lost interest in documenting anything furry. I love photography and do some filming but mostly vacation stuff family stuff and nature in general. seeing how i went to art school which had extensive film and photography quadrants i am not just some dude who buys a camera or video camera.
4 years ago i got a very nice $1600 camera and was a bit of a photo bug but found that i was more interested in filming stuff other than furry stuff. mostly because i cant have myself linked back with furry professionally as it can have ill effects . ( can not will) but why take the chance. occasionally back then i took some fur suiting events for rat's charity group which makes sense but im so lazy with photos i always plan to upload and i never did. hell most of my photos were of the wolves at grouse mountain because i lived just 30 mins away for almost two years.

when i got my film camera it was all business. for my actual business, as i was shooting stock footage for a future documentary on my home town and scheduling actual interviews with locals, wildlife professionals, and elderly folks who know history of the town.
i may have shot some furry stuff once? but i cant even remember because i just don't care enough about it. personally it annoys me to be shot but its not like my soul is being robbed and i usually stay out of photos so it does not matter to much. i think the only real furry thing i actually shot was some documentation of camp fur last year, and most of it was the trip to the train tunnels which i organized on the fly. i haven't touched my camera much since then. i think i brought it to RF last year with the excuse in my head " i own it so i might as well use the dam thing", but i was so busy running around i never did.

i guess i have a odd perspective seeing how i have over $6000 of mixed camera film and video equipment for professional work but really have no desire to do much with it furry. i recall two RF cons ago, at a Halloween much before, and i think all fur fun i brought a camera because i was new to cons and found the fur suits rather nifty. that's about as much as was on fa and i realized if i didn't take photos, someone else would so there was no point spending time id rather spend talking to folks or drawing, running around with a camera anymore.


i have no doubt there are very creepy scary people out there who act like stalkers or perverts  ( especially in a fandom that has such sexuality worn on its sleeve)... personally i cant predict how id act if i learned someone did that to me, but i am sure ember means more girls. so i do not have quite that perspective as i am just detached and dont give a shit about documenting stuff. the kind of stuff i want to document are like very rare trips with my mother before she dies, or getting my grandmother on film ( who now has had a stroke and can not be filmed having a conversation anymore). so i am happy i documented it for my family. part of the connection i have with my mother as a grown up perspective ( and not a son) is that we both love nature photography. two years ago we spent a week with the sole goal to go to golden bc and photograph the wolves there on their wolf walk. for both two day drives there and back we woudl stop every 30 minutes every time we saw wildlife ( mostly birds of prey). when i went up to my home island with azlan last year this time, i had my camera shooting all the time and got some surprising wildlife results such as just happen to be pointing my video camera at a culvert drain when an otter ran out of the brush and into it.

i think you could say jokingly that documenting run of the mill furry events is much more boring to me ( when they are not once in a life time events). and real animals is far more interesting subjects lol. but i say so with a smile and no disrespect. i am glad there are those that document events but i guess Ive been so rooted to where i live and not much of a globe traveler that i just got bored with 100'000 furs videos and photos of ac fc or other cons or travel. it all blurs together after awhile. last time i think i videotaped a fur was when fuzzypaws came up, and we were not doing anything furry, just walking around white cliff park by horseshoe bay. unless you count azlan who accompanied me up north last year for an entire week of filming and couldn't help but be in my videos. he is quite a photography nut too. it was interesting to have him my mom and myself all in the same car ride back south. we even saw a bear along the way.


furry creepers are so far removed, i really am speaking another language. i guess all you can do is do what anyone does, identify when someone causes a problem. warn them and exile them if they do not change.

[SilverRose]

While I tend to take tons of pictures not many turn out as I have a cheaper camera. Those that turn out or if I am taking pictures at events the people who are featured in my pictures are given the choice to get those pictures from me and post them themselves or to not have them posted...

I myself hate when people spam post pictures of others specially those without permission. And yes while I understand that its hard to take pictures and NOT have people in the background limiting those people is something I try hard to do.

Anyone I have taken pictures of can simply email me and I will send them the file and they are welcome to post them anywhere I simply ask that they say I took the picture.

SilverRose

1silverrose1@gmail.com

If anyone knows I took a picture of them or would like me to CHECK my files for pictures of them please email me... Also if I dont know what your suit is please send me a link or a description so I can send the right pictures.

[Aeturnus]

I don't ask when I take video. If I see a couple of fursuits having fun or hanging out in a certain area, I'll pull out my camera and start filming.

When I take pictures, however, I do ask if I happen to come across a lone fursuit, but if there's a group posing in front of a group of people, I'll jump in and take a snapshot or two.

How much I post depends on how lazy I am and/or how happy I am of what I have.

[Sairys]

It would be rather difficult to have release forms for every event & every person that attends such events. Most of our venues are in public areas like when we did easter-egg hunting down at metrotown. I know for a fact the mundanes (nonfurs) as I call them took multi photos of the group mainly of the suiters. Plus a various number of furs taking their own via cellphone or camera

[Renwaldo]

Why don't we just make an unofficial rule that any photographer that takes any more 'upskirt' shots is is going to get a black eye and banished from future events?  :)

It's a simple solution, it works for everyone.

[Kyrusfox]

Why don't we just make an unofficial rule that any photographer that takes any more 'upskirt' shots is is going to get a black eye and banished from future events?  :)

It's a simple solution, it works for everyone.

And if I happen to attend future events! I'll be gladly to be the one to Enforce this rule to bad photographers!  :-3

[Aphinity]

Why don't we just make an unofficial rule that any photographer that takes any more 'upskirt' shots is is going to get a black eye and banished from future events?  :)

It's a simple solution, it works for everyone.

This could be defined as sexual harassment, and is covered by nearly every event's disclosure form, including Howloween and VancouFur.  As for other private events, if it's in a public venue, you have to expect that you will be photographed, and if you don't want to be, you should not be there.  End of discussion.

Private event?  Tell the organizer about something you did not agree with.  I have received multiple such complaints about particular people and they have all had these concerns told to them; in some cases, on multiple occasions.

Public event?  Expect to be photographed, and be careful about how you are posing and positioned since there is very little you can do about it after the fact.  However, direct sexual exploitation or harassment is a criminal offence and you CAN press charges.

[Renwaldo]

I was thinking along the lines of sexual harrassment specifically. I see nothing wrong with being photographed generally speaking.

[lunar_prodigy]

sexual harassment...panda!

[Meer]

sexual harassment...panda!

Man, that reference makes me a saaaaad panda. Thankfully your pictures of totally unthreatening and no doubt morally upstanding clowns cheered me up.

On topic though, our Ottawa events are probably much smaller than the ones you guys put together but our rules follow the 'common sense' approach. Photographers/Videographers? Respect your subjects. If they ask not to be filmed/photographed, do what you can to either avoid them, or blur 'em out of your pics. As for the subjects? If you're going to a major event, expect that people are going to be taking pictures and/or filming it. Our Canada Day events are probably our biggest and there're always videos and pictures. Our film guys have always been very respectful about it and will often avoid pictures of people out of suit. It isn't really the place of a group's forums to dictate behaviour at events. That's up to the event organizer and good ol' social regulation. If you show up at an event acting rudely, don't expect to be welcomed to the next one.

That being said, after reading the majority of this thread it does seem like a bit of a 1st world problem. I'm not a big fan of strangers having film of me that they're doing god knows what with, but I mean, it's the risk you run by leaving your house.