Osama is dead.

Started by Van_Fox, May 01, 2011, 09:20:51 PM

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Kithop

... and the first working dialysis machine was invented by a Dutch guy who later became a US citizen. :p

Charmy

I have a lot of trouble understanding how anyone can 'celebrate' the assassination of another human being, irrespective of what they have done. I just feel sadness at this news and the all-pervasive attitude of eye for an eye, and justice through vengeance and retribution.

I believe the Tao Te Ching said it best:

Weapons are the tools of fear;
a decent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.
Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?
His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.
He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?

He enters a battle gravely,
with sorrow and with great compassion,
as if he were attending a funeral.

R.I.P.
The early bird gets the worm, but the late mouse gets the cheese!

Astraithious

I believe this will have almost no noticeable effect on the current "war on terror" I think its good he is dead but lets not forget how many men and women died over the past 10 years and all of the resources that went into hunting this man down, lets just hope it was worth it. I would love nothing more than the terrorism to stop however i doubt it would.

Still though an entire nation rallying behind some good news is always a nice thing, anything to takes minds off the state of their economy ;3 meanwhile i'll be heading to the states more often to buy goods! =D

Zetta

I smell i power vacuum.


also, its actually true, i saw photographic proof of his corpse, morbid as it was.
guess it's over for now.

Van_Fox

Quote from: Zetta on May 02, 2011, 11:25:26 PM
I smell i power vacuum.


also, its actually true, i saw photographic proof of his corpse, morbid as it was.
guess it's over for now.


Broken Fox

Quote from: Zetta on May 02, 2011, 11:25:26 PM
I smell i power vacuum.


also, its actually true, i saw photographic proof of his corpse, morbid as it was.
guess it's over for now.
That photo that's been floating around is a fake, it's been around since 2003.
Quelle Surprise.

Acco

Quote from: Kithop on May 01, 2011, 11:56:37 PM
Last I read he was dying of kidney failure and was on dialysis anyway.  Now rather than him dying being almost-forgotten, they've turned him into a martyr.

GJ, dudes - way to perpetuate these stupid wars and make more people hate the US... this is why we can't have nice things. c.c

And on that note, I think that people should have to pay for their deeds against others. Letting him die of natural causes would be letting him off the hook far too easily. The guy orchestrated the deaths of many humans. Surely there should be some punishment for such an act.

Kithop

Totally - it's called incarceration, stripping him of all material wealth and donating the proceeds to pro-democracy causes, that sort of thing.

No one has the right to kill someone else, and by stooping to their level we've only perpetuated the situation.  Which, of course, is exactly their intention - war is good for business, if you're in the business of selling death to the highest bidder. ;)

spuug

This is only a symbolic victory.  Real victory will only come when the conditions that lead people to think that violence is a viable option are ended.   That will take a lot more time.


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spuug

I was a little annoyed because they stopped the press where I work for an hour to change the front page of the paper
from a Canadian flag (for election coverage) to a picture of Bin Laden.  It made me miss my bus home, so I had to
walk for an hour instead.  (A co-worker gave me a ride part of the way.)  On the plus side, it means getting paid for an extra hour.  :-)


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Acco

Quote from: Kithop on May 03, 2011, 10:25:05 AM
Totally - it's called incarceration, stripping him of all material wealth and donating the proceeds to pro-democracy causes, that sort of thing.

No one has the right to kill someone else, and by stooping to their level we've only perpetuated the situation.  Which, of course, is exactly their intention - war is good for business, if you're in the business of selling death to the highest bidder. ;)

There's something to be said about the poetic justice of an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. I'm by no means a supporter of the US, but I think that this was the best option for everybody involved. There are definitely instances where some crimes are too heinous to allow somebody to live, mass murder for one. I wouldn't equate this to Nuremberg trials, but it somewhat falls along the same lines.

Drake Wingfire

In my honest opinion all this will do is inflate Americas Ego, and like others have said make Osama a Martyr in the eyes of extremists.

To be honest his death didn't impress me, not because the whole "killing is wrong" deal, more so because Osama in my books has to be the most successful hide and seek player on this earth, it took 11 years and the entire US army to find this guy (if they were even looking after the second year that is) and at this point I almost wouldn't be surprised if some story comes out how Osama died due to kidney failure and some person went up to his body, pulled out a gun and went *pop* GOTTEM!

Maybe its because im not American, maybe its because this "war" has been going on for litteraly about HALF my lifetime to this point.. hell maybe its because he was a 60yr guy on dialysis and it took 11 years to find and kill his ass... but I just don't see the whole death of Osama as a real triumph as we all know it will change nothing... if anything it may lure America into a false sense of security and make them susceptible to yet another attack for all we know at this point.