Canada is America WHAT???

[Maoi Neko]

I liked that.

[Renwaldo]

Me too, it was nice. It isn't often that credit is given to our nation for providing for America.

Although to be fair, our country is more reliant on theirs than they are on us in terms of international trade. There's still a large majority of product that goes through (if not manufactured in) America before it can be purchased by Canadian citizens.  That's been gradually getting better over the years, but the majority of our commercial name brands are still American based.

[Silvermink]

i will complain about the grammar in it no matter what then.
because its not a big deal, and its just too old to matter unless they're some kind of person who gets antagonized by everything and should learn to calm their fucking pants.

The grammar is correct, I think; it's just a weird construction. It's basically "Canada, command true patriot love in all thy sons/all of us".

[Zetta]

In all of us command makes no sense to me as english, so i'm pretty sure its wrong.
but whatever, as if its gonna change anytime soon.

[Renwaldo]

Colonial Canadian English is considered informal by real Englishman.
The Brits generally have a better understanding of the language than Canadians ever had.  :-\

[StickyTheDragon]

Well, it is called the ENGLISH language. :monocle:

Have you ever really talked to some Englishmen? I have, because my cousins are English. They have all of these different words for things (e.g.: Flats in England, Apartment in North America). Technically, our language should be called "North American English", as we and the US basically share it. The only differences that come to mind is a few grammar differences, spelling differences and saying "Zed" instead of "Zee" (I say "Zee", even though I was born and raised here). Perhaps the usage of the word "Eh" also. ;)

[Silvermink]

In all of us command makes no sense to me as english, so i'm pretty sure its wrong.

Well, I think you have to allow a little poetic license given they're lyrics. It's "command in all of us", cut up a bit.

Re: North American English, I actually find Canadian English is sort of halfway between British and American, but I use more British slang than most people do due to my partner's influence.

[Vanilla Skunk]

The majority of the English speaking people in the world have based their language, down to the spelling, on British English.  The states differs by removing U from a bunch of words.  Colour, for example.

We still keep the U in our spellings, though it is "optional" nowadays so long as you're in Canada.  It's just annoying that you have to select "British English" to get spell checkers to use the true Canadian spelling for most words, but then the grammar correct changes things that shouldn't be.  I think we should be a little more present with the way we speak and spell our language, not "Oh whatever."  This goes for software that provides spell checking abilities... stop lumping Canadian English with United States English, for fuck sake.

[Silvermink]

Personally, I leave out the U's. Call me a heretic, but that's the way I've done it for a very long time.

As for the spell checkers, the US English default is the simple fact of our markets being largely integrated and the fact that the US has ten times as many people as we do. Does it suck? Sure, maybe. Is it likely to change? I doubt it.

[StickyTheDragon]

Personally, I leave out the U's. Call me a heretic, but that's the way I've done it for a very long time.

As for the spell checkers, the US English default is the simple fact of our markets being largely integrated and the fact that the US has ten times as many people as we do. Does it suck? Sure, maybe. Is it likely to change? I doubt it.

I don't bother with the "U"s, either. It just annoys me when I type a word in with Canadian spelling and it calls the word incorrect, so I don't do it anymore.

No, it probably won't change. No point bitching about it, right? Especially when only Canadians would be reading it. :roll:

[Silvermink]

No, it probably won't change. No point bitching about it, right? Especially when only Canadians would be reading it. :roll:

Nope, no point bitching about it.

...oh, I'm sorry, was that sarcasm? :roll:

Sure, if you (or Felix) want to blow off steam about it, fly at 'er. Don't let me stop you. You'll notice that I didn't say "don't bitch about it", I just said I didn't think it was likely to change.

[Vanilla Skunk]

If I didn't have to worry about shoddy internet, I'd seriously consider moving to New Zealand or Australia.

[Silvermink]

If I didn't have to worry about shoddy internet, I'd seriously consider moving to New Zealand or Australia.

If (God forbid) Sarah Palin gets in in 2012, I've not-entirely-seriously (but not-entirely-unseriously-either) considered moving to Europe just to be further away from the US. Though I would still enjoy it from afar. :P My partner's a dual citizen, Canadian/British, so that'd probably give us a leg up if we wanted to move there. Of course, Britain is a total Big-Brother surveillance society, but I think the new(ish) government there has made some important moves toward dismantling that.

New Zealand seems nice, but I'd give Australia a miss. Its government has a total hardon for obsessively controlling its citizens' access to the Internet, as you alluded to, I think.

Maybe my comment about getting further away from a (God forbid) Palin-led US seems incompatible with the love for it that I professed earlier, but think of it this way - I think tigers are beautiful, too, but it doesn't mean I want one roaming my backyard. Though, with Sarah Palin, maybe the better analogy would be a bison or something - beautiful, but not too bright.