What has happened to this generation?

Started by Trigger, August 11, 2012, 12:05:24 AM

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Ja'Nathun

Quote from: Drake Wingfire on August 15, 2012, 12:40:31 AM
Cheap shots trying to sound smart aside. (disturbed....really?) That was my answer, I assume I wasn't thought provoking in the right flavor that you want? It may not be the answer you are looking to hear but if this world was full of people just hearing what ever wanted to hear that would be boring as hell. (and also horribly fake and plastic) Every generation is different and every generation always thinks the newer ones are totally backwards and full of social disfunc. At least on a larger scale, I know not everyone thinks that way. That would fall under the notion of status-quot.


But if you really must have an answer to your question because you don't like the current playing field that is a topic on a forum for peoples thoughts and opinions.

I would say if you put a child in a controlled environment then you are simply going by age-reaction and what they already perceive drugs as via their parents, schools and friends words. (little kids thinking everything is icky and gross, teens willing to give it a shot etc etc) if its something like smokes, everyone's first times always suck, its one of those "you get use to it" deals, maybe the youth would be far less likely to do it, but if you are going for immediate effect drugs.. I think honestly you would be just getting more youth hooked on them. People crave excitement and adventure and the entire point of drugs is an escape from boredom and normality, its only purpose is enjoyment and fun for the moment. Youths lives are literally already all about that. (Video games, Sugar, Movies, Sex) Its all about what ever is the most fun at the time. so I think the only way you are gonna steer anyone clear of drugs in a controlled environment is if what ever drug they used had a nasty side effects or some short term withdrawal like symptoms. Its always been about pleasure VS pain, if the pleasure outweighs the pain then people will do it, but if its more "pain" than its worth, people will not do it. Humans are just hard-wired to always seek out the thing that cause the most instant pleasure

Like imagine if in some reality, immense head trauma caused you suddenly feel just wonderful for a few hours, like just pumped for of all sorts of lovely natural occurring chemicals. Now tell a kid "hey if you smash your head on the edge of the brick wall you will feel great!" yeah sure.. for the moment in that reality, but then you got to deal with excruciating pain afterwards and a long recovery as you deal with a concussion and possibly a fractured skull and brain bruising. How many people do you think would get hooked on the initial sensation if it involved such pain and damage? In that scenario the pain so greatly outweighs the enjoyment that people just wont do it.

But in my honest opinion that's just a long winded analysis of what is a micro fraction of what people are, it doesn't really say anything for the general topic which is about why the generations are so seperated. All that was established is that people crave enjoyment and that maybe the older generations "re-program" themselves to see the things they enjoy and like as bad and wrong and now go about shaking their fingers and scrunching their faces at younger people who are actually enjoying themselves because those "more mature" individuals have made themselves jaded to those things they use to enjoy to SEEM more mature.

I apologize if things seem that way, but I wasn't trying to make any cheap shots at all during that last bit. If you feel threatened by my posting then I'm sorry. If you like, we can whip it out and show everyone how much bigger than me you are :)

Honestly, I think you've finally gotten to a good point in this last post of yours. You're right: people would still pursue drugs as long as the pleasure outweighed the pain and the drugs themselves appeared to be a gateway to still more good times to come. I like your solution as well: to counter this, one would have to alter all drugs available to produce a higher difference of pain to pleasure. It could theoretically be done, assuming the scientific and medical communities could get behind it. Then, even supposing that illegal dealers could and would lace their products with more pleasure-producing items, such back-alley sellers would soon be run out of town, or have their own supplies "tainted" by the specially made "painful" drugs. In essence, it's less about controlling the environment and more about controlling the things within it. I like it.

That's all I was looking for: a little outside-the-box thinking to solve conventional issues.
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Drake Wingfire

The cheap drug dealers are almost doing that themselves already, they try and cut drugs with what ever similar looking substance they can find so they can sell what looks like a larger quantity of drugs. But its true, if the market were to be flooded with counter active drugs, it may put off many people, the hardcore addicted would be a whole different story. Unless someone somehow made a knock off drug that actually had a counteractive effect to the symptoms of the addiction.

Lol but that still leaves us with Sex and Rcok'N'Roll, and I dun wanna change sex unless its society's viewing of it. XD

tokar

this is the age old question every generation asks of the next.  what is your problem?  and the answer is
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Drake Wingfire

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Quote from: tokar on August 17, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
this is the age old question every generation asks of the next.  what is your problem?  and the answer is

Nothing


(okay I wanted to leave it at one word to sound more to the point and dramatic, but I also realized I would look like a douche)
But yes, every generation is use to their own tastes and morals, I guess one could call it "social evolution"

And also wanna also apologize to Ja'Nathun for being rather harsh in tone in my last posts too ^.=.^;;

Trigger

Well I was glad I got such a good response the question, good discussions, glad to know that I ain't the only one thinking about it.
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JazzyLament

Well I'M personally glad we've established modern mainstream music is bollocks :3