What has happened to this generation?

Started by Trigger, August 11, 2012, 12:05:24 AM

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Trigger

What has happened? we used to have Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll, now all we got is AIDS, meth and techno. the Fashion's off the charts weird, and my goodness the kids, all they want to do now is drink and get high, call me old fashioned, but the 21st century has taken a turn for the worst.
I'd rather die on paws than live on feet.

Peli

Well ah fer one blame dem LIBERALS and OBAMACARE and dey's not keepin' dem kids off my lawn consarnit. Small gov'mint.

Temrin

i kinda lol because you said "we used to have Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll" and that your problem with this generation is all ppl want to do is drink and get high, which is part of the afore mentioned :P

Be open about the new generation because theres really nothing you can do about it XD

Carl Foxmarten

Well, we could sit on our porches and yell at the kids to get off our lawns, but that wouldn't really help much... =^.~=

Speaking of which, aren't those two groups actually part of different generations?
And maybe even different centuries?

Real-life conversation between me and my brother a while back:
Me: "Don't look at me like I'm from the last century!"
Brother: "But you are!"
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weremagnus

I'm quite certain when we were growing up, the generation before us said the exact same thing. And so on and so forth.

Trigger

It was different though, it's used to usually be being responsible about it, and there weren't nearly as many 12 year olds drinking then either, I guess you could say that I'm very stubborn to change and have very high opinions about a lot of things, to hear my mother talk about when she was a child "When I was young the rebellious music I listened to was Alice Cooper." whom is actually a really smart man, if you listen to him talk.
I'd rather die on paws than live on feet.

Drake Wingfire

Its safe to say that no two generations are alike, sure in our parents time it was sex, drugs and rock'n'roll but I would not say that current generations are fucked up. If you look at the big picture, the adults in our parents days looked at our parents and said "whats wrong with this generation, there are hippies and rock-roller-what-ever fans and all they wanna do is get high and drink while listening to that awful music!" there has never been a "normal" generation, it can't exist. For it to exist you would have to literally just have a generation of kids so doped up on meds they lost all sense of adventure and any interest in what being a youth is all about. Which lets be honest is what the adults of every generation want, every single generation has said the youth of their time is stupid, that they waste their time and energy on things that have no end payoff, that they listen to shitty music and just wanna abuse substances and fuck everything that moves. To that I say "its sad that those adults all seem to have gotten Alzheimers prematurely, or else they would recall when they were a kid and did all the same shit" Which brings me to my next paragraph.

Me personally when I have those thoughts about the younger generations... I cringe and get a bit upset... not with them, but myself because I utterly despise with venomous hatred the feeling that I am just getting older and the vortex of horribly bland, uptight and soulless adults keeps trying to suck me in to become one of them. I hate it because I see it as a life of monotony and thus a life not even lived and in a stretch not even worth living if its just dedicated to being the life of a 9-5 drone who becomes an alcoholic cause its the only "joy" they find anymore due to have being in such a rush to "be more of an adult". I cannot with any semblance of a conscience or "morality" that's left in me honestly take "maturity" advice from the typical adult because it would simply lead one down the same ruinous path that they chose. In short, take a good look at the people complaining about youth and their tastes, the ones telling them to grow up and give up the things they like. THAT is what a person looks like who did that very thing themselves. A bit of a tangent I know..

Trigger

I suppose you guys are right, I guess me bitching about it isn't going to make it any better, I know that I was born in the wrong era that's for sure, which I guess I should just conform with society and continue life, I am not proud of this generation at all, but there's nothing I can do about it.
I'd rather die on paws than live on feet.

MikeFurry

Its not just the current generation.. it goes back to the previous Generation too!  This has been getting worse and worse for the past 20 years now.  I am studying psychology and I often talk about this with the doctor I am studying under.  Our view is that we are now in an instant gratification era.

In this modern age, we are used to things being instants and right away, and if we go 15 seconds with out getting what we want, people start acting badly.  Today, we have super fast cars to move us from point A to B, who wants to take the bus?  We have instant messaging and e-mail, who wants to write a letter and wait 4 weeks for a reply?  I can remember my grandparents all having gardens in their backyards, now the only time people see any veggies is if it is sticking out from their burgers or falling off their pizzas.

And there is a greed factor too, or as I like to call it, ME ME ME Mentality.  People see others with their bling and their shinies and they want it too, and will do stuff that a few years ago would have got them shunned by the community, but now they get heralded by the other fuck-wits who also don't have the bling or the shiny.  In this me-first world, I watch people race across town with little regard to roadsafety or red-lights because they just HAVE to be first.. even if it means nearly hitting other cars or whiping out, they have to be first. 

The gaps between rich and poor are getting huge, and have been since as far back as I can remember what the concepts were (the 80s).   The have's don't understand what it means to go with out and often show off a level of arrogance that could dwarf the CN tower,  and the have-not's are raging against this because they are sick of going with out.   The thing is, compared to many places in the world, our have-not people have it pretty damn good.. but by the standards which which we judge ourselves, we are pretty poor.

Then theirs religion... IF people only lived by the teachings that their various religions to better their lives and the lives around them (feed the poor, shelter your neighbour, treat others with decency) , instead of using it for their own personal agenda (political gain, ceasing power, removing those you don't like or agree with), then we really would have a world at peace.. but no, people are selfish and self-centred.  This leads to more anger and hatred and distrust because we rarely see the good acts any more, but we always remember the bad.

None wants to take responsibility for anything anymore either.  The other night, I was out with a few locals, and each of them left a HUGE mess which I felt disgusted by.  So I cleaned it up.   So what that they made part of the mess, they were with me, and I cleaned up after them because sometimes you have take responsibility for those around you as well.  I know this statement won't make me any more popular, but so many of us in this world need to just get over ourselves.. we are not nearly as important as we think we are, because in reality, we are just all one part of a greater whole.

Speaking as one with anger-issues, we must all try to calm down anotch..  Easier said than done.. but its something we have to work on.

=^.,.^=

Trigger

^^ you sire have just summed up everything I couldn't get from my head to the keyboard
I'd rather die on paws than live on feet.

Fuzzum

ah i feel im to ypung for this but i see Drake has used his 9-5 alchoholic drone thing again.
but as i see it Monkey see Moneky do, BACKLASH BABY! its all about on how your brought into this world, your parents your friends and so on.

and i think thats all i got on this for now.
No wait i totaly do!

Drake Wingfire

Quote from: Fuzzum on August 12, 2012, 02:19:53 AM
ah i feel im to ypung for this but i see Drake has used his 9-5 alchoholic drone thing again.
but as i see it Monkey see Moneky do, BACKLASH BABY! its all about on how your brought into this world, your parents your friends and so on.

and i think thats all i got on this for now.

Lol it makes for an apt quick description XD
When you work anywhere long enough you see that's about all some people got going on in their lives >.=.>

Drake Wingfire

Quote from: MikeFurry on August 12, 2012, 12:04:59 AM
Its not just the current generation.. it goes back to the previous Generation too!  This has been getting worse and worse for the past 20 years now.  I am studying psychology and I often talk about this with the doctor I am studying under.  Our view is that we are now in an instant gratification era.

In this modern age, we are used to things being instants and right away, and if we go 15 seconds with out getting what we want, people start acting badly.  Today, we have super fast cars to move us from point A to B, who wants to take the bus?  We have instant messaging and e-mail, who wants to write a letter and wait 4 weeks for a reply?  I can remember my grandparents all having gardens in their backyards, now the only time people see any veggies is if it is sticking out from their burgers or falling off their pizzas.

And there is a greed factor too, or as I like to call it, ME ME ME Mentality.  People see others with their bling and their shinies and they want it too, and will do stuff that a few years ago would have got them shunned by the community, but now they get heralded by the other fuck-wits who also don't have the bling or the shiny.  In this me-first world, I watch people race across town with little regard to roadsafety or red-lights because they just HAVE to be first.. even if it means nearly hitting other cars or whiping out, they have to be first. 

The gaps between rich and poor are getting huge, and have been since as far back as I can remember what the concepts were (the 80s).   The have's don't understand what it means to go with out and often show off a level of arrogance that could dwarf the CN tower,  and the have-not's are raging against this because they are sick of going with out.   The thing is, compared to many places in the world, our have-not people have it pretty damn good.. but by the standards which which we judge ourselves, we are pretty poor.

Then theirs religion... IF people only lived by the teachings that their various religions to better their lives and the lives around them (feed the poor, shelter your neighbour, treat others with decency) , instead of using it for their own personal agenda (political gain, ceasing power, removing those you don't like or agree with), then we really would have a world at peace.. but no, people are selfish and self-centred.  This leads to more anger and hatred and distrust because we rarely see the good acts any more, but we always remember the bad.

None wants to take responsibility for anything anymore either.  The other night, I was out with a few locals, and each of them left a HUGE mess which I felt disgusted by.  So I cleaned it up.   So what that they made part of the mess, they were with me, and I cleaned up after them because sometimes you have take responsibility for those around you as well.  I know this statement won't make me any more popular, but so many of us in this world need to just get over ourselves.. we are not nearly as important as we think we are, because in reality, we are just all one part of a greater whole.

Speaking as one with anger-issues, we must all try to calm down anotch..  Easier said than done.. but its something we have to work on.

=^.,.^=

Mmm thats a very good argument as well, wish I had thought of it ^^;

Like you said we have all grown up pretty much programed to have very short attention spans and even shorter fuses. I will say with the greed thing, in many causes age is heavily tied to it. My mate could even vouch for that with all his work in retail environments. Many people still try and raise their kids to use their please and thankyou's and it does work most of the time. The real issue which pains me to see is when those kids grow up (the kids who grew up having manners and were raised to try and be miniature model citizens) once they get in their late teens and get out into the "real world" they get totally raped 6 ways to Thursday by society because they put themselves out there in even the smallest way and there will be some greedy back stabbers waiting to capitalize on it. After so long of trying to be nice and getting nothing but contempt and the cold shoulder. It does cause one to become somewhat jaded (or maybe this is some vague history of my life lol)

Really, you get out into the world for the first time, everyone has taught you that bullies are just something in school, people who yell and are rude are just something in school, every lill dishonest or mean spirited thing you got in school people insisted was just a "school thing" and that people in reality are much more mature than that. Till you actually meet some of these "real" flesh bags and find out that they get even more greedy and rude with age to the point they will slam doors in your face and yell over your talking when they are not getting their way. (this is most of the reason why I despise old people, one is meet are horribly lacking in manners or common curtsey)

But take what I say with a grain of salt as I am honestly a bit of a self confessed misanthrope. I can like, even LOVE individual people but I generally want nothing to do with the rest of the species.

JazzyLament

The average age for a person to first have sex is 15 or so, British Columbia is well known for it's marijuana, and Vancouver is a breeding ground for indie rock and roll.

Sounds like it's still sex drugs and rock and roll.

If anything I think this generation is improved. Environmental Awareness, sexual health campaigns, tobacco, alcohol, and other drug awareness, a lot more tolerance to race and orientation.

Only thing that really changed is media awareness, you hear more about people dying because of doing stupid things while drunk or teenagers getting pregnant, or people overdosing on drugs. Now, if rock and roll memoirs are to be believed, these issues were already present. I mean jeez, Jim Morrison alone probably left around 20 children.

People are more aware of what's wrong with people.

Doesn't mean this is anything new.


Xen Garden

Honestly, in a way I think all generations are the same. We want to bang, we want to get effed up, we want to listen to music that is displeasing to the older generations. But I think the generations are actually getting more awesome. The reason why people probably think our generation and beyond are messed up is because of how communication has advanced. And because of the internet, humanity and all of it's knowledge, horrors, and stupidity are all easily accessible and viewable by the average person. It is much easier for everyone to share new ideas, and to communicate around the globe instantly. Our world is becoming smaller as we speak, and it is much easier to connect with people. Because of religion being a big thing in the past, people lived very slow paced and manual lives, with slow technological advancements, because science was seen as "blasphemic" for the fact it was "playing God". But now we live in a very fast paced life, with many things doing work for us, and new technology coming out faster than we could keep up with because more people are reliable on the beauty of science. However, because we are an immature species living on this giant rock in space, despite us gaining knowledge about the world at a rapid rate, this could also lead to our downfall of the planet, since it's practically become 1 big garbage bin by urbanizing every natural unoccupied space we see, even though we are trying to save it by "going green".

Speaking of going green, I know things are becoming more biodegradable, because of natural ingredients being used (Which is awesome for garbage), but if you think about it, they had to gather those natural resources, and is technically not saving the planet, and I'm sure that processing these natural things into useful product are probably done in not-so-green ways. So, even though we may be kinder to the planet with our garbage, this does not change the fact that we are sucking these wonderful resources from the planet for our own selfish reasons.

These are just my opinions though... so I don't expect everyone to agree with what I have to say.