How is NO one talking about... (Occupy X Protests)

[EmoFox]

the occupy wall street protests? Other than the fact that its freakin EVERY where else. I'm greatly surprised there's no topic on it here.
so. really. People's thoughts. Beginning of the end? Some interesting speculation, some people who follow the 2012 myth, believe it's not the end of the world, so much as the "end of civilization as we know it."

also, there's a support movement happening in Vancouver (at the Art Gallery, of course) on the 15th. anyone going?

[JFoxx]

The way I see 2012 is just another scare false propaganda. The world could end anytime either naturally or by mankind doesn't have to be in 2012. Could be tomorrow or the next day or maybe 2013 or just not for along time from now.
The thing that scares me the most is the government how they have nuclear bombs and with a push of a button can practically destroy everything and if there was a long period of no power to sustain the nuclear bombs it'd go into meltdown and we would still be fucked.
But that is just one of many things why I fear the government.
The way I see things though if anything were to happen; it wouldn't be the end but just a beginning to something new.
Maybe a revolution will break out for freedom, independence, and such and be a mass civil war running the government down to the ground being all fed up taking there bullshit.
Or maybe aliens will make there appearance known and put a end to mankind's existence or make them more knowledgeable, teaching us.

[mediar]

Seen it all over the twitters, the internets and papers... tl;ldr..

[Snoww]

When I read about it, it reminded me of the third Zeitgeist movie where (in the movie) the people couldn't put up with poverty and job loss anymore and threw what little money they had back at the major banks (And wall street) and became self sufficient. Though I think these protests are a farcry from any revolutionary act and will dissolve back into the nothingness it once was.

[Drake Wingfire]

I wouldn't call it the beginning of the end. But its clear that the notion of Capitalism has become so corrupt with greed that it is stopping the system from properly functioning. Hell even look at Canadian politics, we got tons of unemployment and poverty.. and here the head honchos in politics here get raises every so often to "keep up with the cost of living", the rest of us who are not making at least $15 an hour? haha who gives a shit? Thats the general mindset. They only care so long as they are the ones who get vacations every month and a nice multi-million dollar house, the rest of us can live in a card board box and eat pigeons for all they care.

Whats wrong is there should have been an un-alterable wage cap set for CEO's and government officials to prevent them from choking companies and systems to death with their own personal greed. Many average joe workers have wage caps, after so many years your wage cannot go up (I believe this was something like $15 for retail work, at least for a few employers I have heard from) our officials and CEOs should not be getting the wage hikes, they already earn enough for an insanely comfortable life style.

BC ferries is a great example of this, the guy in charge of it has been getting fucking huge payoffs, yet he is driving the company into the dirt by constantly hiking fares and reducing service. And when his plan doesn't work and revenues go down, he just hikes fares MORE... That is the exact same way wallstreet has been for god knows how long.

[Renwaldo]

When I read about it, it reminded me of the third Zeitgeist movie where (in the movie) the people couldn't put up with poverty and job loss anymore and threw what little money they had back at the major banks (And wall street) and became self sufficient. Though I think these protests are a farcry from any revolutionary act and will dissolve back into the nothingness it once was.

lol yeah no kidding.
Our society has become too dependent on common luxuries to rebel. We're too soft to live independent of the system now.  ;D

[Snoww]

I wouldn't call it the beginning of the end. But its clear that the notion of Capitalism has become so corrupt with greed that it is stopping the system from properly functioning. Hell even look at Canadian politics, we got tons of unemployment and poverty.. and here the head honchos in politics here get raises every so often to "keep up with the cost of living", the rest of us who are not making at least $15 an hour? haha who gives a shit? Thats the general mindset. They only care so long as they are the ones who get vacations every month and a nice multi-million dollar house, the rest of us can live in a card board box and eat pigeons for all they care.

Whats wrong is there should have been an un-alterable wage cap set for CEO's and government officials to prevent them from choking companies and systems to death with their own personal greed. Many average joe workers have wage caps, after so many years your wage cannot go up (I believe this was something like $15 for retail work, at least for a few employers I have heard from) our officials and CEOs should not be getting the wage hikes, they already earn enough for an insanely comfortable life style.

BC ferries is a great example of this, the guy in charge of it has been getting fucking huge payoffs, yet he is driving the company into the dirt by constantly hiking fares and reducing service. And when his plan doesn't work and revenues go down, he just hikes fares MORE... That is the exact same way wallstreet has been for god knows how long.

Min wage is expectant to rise to 10 dollars an hour, within the next year or two if I recall correctly.

It's sad even with my education I'll be lucky to get a job that pays 15 dollars an hour, that is if I even get a new job after my education is over.

[EmoFox]

oookay. I said they think it's the end of CIVILIZATION as we know it (aka capitalist society) not the end of the world. o_O chill pill. There have been lots of more mild theories surrounding the 2012 hype, I was pointing one of them out. It's also rumoured to be a time of great spiritual revelation, like the second coming of Jesus or something. I'm not saying this is the beginning of the end of the world. Just maybe the beginning of the fall of capitalism. Wouldn't that be interesting to live through?

So. recap. not the end of the world. just capitalism. Maybe. @_@

[RainRat]

If you want to put the local one in the Calendar, you're welcome to.

[Snoww]

I feel I am lucky with the position I am in my life right now. Where I am making $17+ hr can live on my own and support my pets comfortably and still have enough money left over to spend on whatever I feel like. But the reality is not everyone is as fortunate. And so for everyone else that isn't as lucky enough to have a good job with no real present or future, yes I can understand why they are going to march and speak out. Because we all have to if we want change to the corrupt system. Since our current leaders don't want to allow change as they are living way better lives then we will ever. But does this mean it is end of the world and we are all going to die? NO. The people that want to think that are just getting out of hand and believing piles of bullshit from people trying to scare others with no facts. If anything thing this event should hopefully spark a bigger fire that will burn down the system filled with corruption and eventually evolve into a better way of life for all. Where we don't have massive corporations exploiting us and politicians screwing us over whenever they can. Because you know there is something wrong when you see taxes on top of taxes, companies penny pinching their customers, etc.>:/ And so whenever I know I can exploit the system I do and I do not feel bad about it. Because it just means I am getting some of my money that is rightfully mine back to me. And everyone else should do the same (as long as they make it untraceable that is xP).

But for all those that keep on getting worked up over end of the world is near bullshit with every little event need to shut up and go somewhere else where they will only harm themselves. I will only believe the end of the world is here when I got a massive asteroid flying towards my house. Till then stfu and gtfo.

You make 17+ an hour? Any room for employment? (Not sure where you work x3 but grabs a fancy suit and resume anyways)

[Drake Wingfire]

Min wage is expectant to rise to 10 dollars an hour, within the next year or two if I recall correctly.

It's sad even with my education I'll be lucky to get a job that pays 15 dollars an hour, that is if I even get a new job after my education is over.

Yeah I use to make $11/hr as a computer tech, I had no certs, got the job off of my pure knack for computers.. loved the job untill I was getting belittled and used as the scape goat (pretty much there were times someone would fuck something up and it would take extra time to fix it and when the customers would come in the manager would go "oh you know those younger people, they screw up lots") Ultimately lead to me being "layed off" when I dared to even inquite about a raise since I was their lowest payed and most worked employee. Turns out you have no rights when you work for independent small businesses.

So yeah now I am at wal-mart making $9.40/hr only getting half the house I did at my tech job cause Island employment is about as bountiful as food is in South Africa. So I am staring at the calendar waiting for min wage to go up in the slight chance I can actually save some money and truly improve my life. >.=.<

[EmoFox]

that's funny; I used to make $14 an hour as an uncertified computer tech. and then they tried to push me more into sales than techy stuff, and I got fired. I'm not a sales person, *shrug* it was no skin off my back. It was a decent company though, i'd go back.

[Renwaldo]

Wait, you make $9.40 and live on your own? :o

This bodes well for me.  ;D

[Selkit]

Making $9.40 hourly and living on your own is *not* easy, Ren. Nigh impossible anywhere but Langley or Surrey if you have anything more than basic expenses (Optometry, prescriptions or whatever; Next to no employers take care of these expenses nowadays)

[Zen]

What I want to know is what OWS's ultimate goal is? What's the smaller picture beyond getting mad and protesting? No government or group of billionaires is gonna list to a bunch of rioters, no matter if they're mad as hell because they have the money to crush just about anything short of a revolution. (Which would never work in the US or Canada, but that's a tangent.)

I want to know what OWS is trying to accomplish. Yes I read their site and some information on them, but it's not clear what they want to do, beyond annoy the free market and get their 15 minutes on TV.