Posting on a Forum so There is Little to No Drama 101

Started by WerewolfRedX666, March 24, 2011, 11:40:16 AM

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WerewolfRedX666

1. don't start a thread if you know it will start drama.
-if you want to bring something to light or notify people of something that is going figure out away to make the post readable but not able to be replied too.

2. make sure your post is on topic
- if people post off topic it tends to lead to the topic being forgotten and people just posting conversations that would best be left to over IM 

3. reread your post before submitting it
- look at what you have written down and try to read it as other people might and ask  your self simple questions like could this pe offensive, does it seem directed at one person, can i rewrite this so people won't get the wrong idea.

4. don't put a quote someone said in your post if you don't like what the person your quoting said.
-this leads to finger pointing and mud slinging or ganging up on someone. On a forum everyone gets to say there two cents even if you don't want that person to, there is no point in singling them out because everyone posts something that someone will find offensive.

there 4 steps to post with little if not no drama

p.s
I am not trying tell people how to post

I am well aware that this method may not work all the time and that simple by creating this thread someone is going to reply to it in away that will create some form of drama. Please take this post a food for thought
My two cents take it or leave it

Van_Fox

Id type me "Dont pretend to be the hero" speech, but I can tell you mean well =3
So I wont XD

kohl

Why does it even matter? these boards only get about half a dozen new threads, per branch anyways. It's not knocking anyones elses posts off the front pages. I haven't really seen any posts bringing up drama (if you have any ref. that would be good). If you mean the people saying they have problems in there lives, that's not drama.
If someone wants to start drama they'll manipulate others to see there detest in someone.
They'll get other people to shun someone just because of something they've done.
Most of the real drama isn't even taken in publics posts.
Most drama on these boards is shut down pretty quickly. There maybe conflics of intrest but even that doesn't last long. So what's the real issue? I'll bet there's no more a dozen post per day, on the WHOLE FORUM. So how long does that take to go through?

If you're going to object about something, put some content into what you don't like or else it just flops around and noone else really knows exactly what you mean.

I highly object to your rules aswell.
"don't start a thread if you know it will start drama"
WFT? I could post that I love puppies and someonesomeone could post up "puppies piss every where and they're stupid" It's pretty much asking people not to post at all.
"Make sure you post on topic"
I believe the board has less then a dozen catagories so there's going to be grey areas. Just pick wat ever seem to suit the situation, if it doesn't the Mods will let the poster know and move the tread.
"reread your post before submitting it"
Some people like to post as they feel in the moment. if people percieve it wrong they can come back and reexplain the situation. pretty simple. So is your post directed on one or everyone? perhaps your situation could b left to a PM or an IM chat.
"don't put a quote someone said in your post if you don't like what the person your quoting said"
So we're just supposed to put a post againts the general public? If someone doesn't line something, so what? MMaybe they actually like something better then what you do but your being to obnoctious to see it. See people opinions as what they are. Some they like. If they start following someone around on the forums and spamming then then, if it's in the right context, start something. if someone says they don't like the way a certain thing is going then you'll probably be able to learn something from there views.

MurphyErasmus

Kohl, go check out Selkit's thread. It's pretty obvious there's a LOT of drama, and you're starting some yourself by not bothering to be aware of what's on the boards and unnecessarily ragging on Red.

1. Asking not to start dramatic posts = asking people not to post? Seriously? There's a difference between "I love puppies!" and "Everyone who doesn't like puppies should be shot twelve times in the face and anally violated with a rake!" The first is rational, the second is Insanity Wolf. What Red is saying is don't post topics that Insanity Wolf would approve of. A difference of opinion doesn't always lead to drama. In fact, it's quite rare. People can express their opinions without this forum turning into Lord of the Furs.

2. Posting on topic = grey areas, oh god how can I post on topic?!
Understandably there will be grey areas. You don't need to pick apart one of Red's suggestions. I believe it refers more to people who post in Advice about how they have this fursuit and there is going to be an event OMG, or people who post in sewing about their extreme depression. These rules are generalities and should be taken as such.

3. Rereading posts = oh god you're cramping my style, I feel like I shouldn't have to adjust what I say EVER
So what if people feel like posting in the moment? It takes maybe thirty seconds to look over your post, clarify, fix some stuff and hit "post". In fact, if you're on a forum where you're communicating with a large number of people, it's pretty much suicide to not look over your post. I was about to say that I doubt you just post before rereading, but judging from your reply on one of my threads I'm just going to keep quiet on that one.

4. Don't quote stuff you don't like = oh god mass confusion, NO ONE WILL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
Maybe if you don't like something that's being said, not quoting it will lead to not talking about it which will lead to the aversion of a massive shitstorm. Besides, you don't always need to quote to get your point across.

No one asked you to come in and crap all over Red's suggestions. I happen to think they're all extremely sensible and, if followed, would help cut down on the massive amounts of bawwwwing I've seen. Also, before you baww at someone for not posting evidence to back up their drama claims - well, would you like it if one of your posts was linked as a prime example of drama? Everyone in the thread will feel targeted. Besides, it's pretty obvious, and if someone can't see the drama, well, I can recommend some good optometrists.

Drama does not always stem from manipulation. From what I saw of Selkit's thread - and I read as objectively as possible - he simply posted that he was in a tight spot, and people started saying things like "I hate you" and "you need a smack in the head" because he has a trust fund he can't access! It was completely unnecessary, and Selkit did NOTHING to provoke any of what ensued.

Kohl, before you act like the authority on these forums, please get to know the topics.

kohl

The thread Selkit started is actually a prime example for my case. He came, explained his situation, asked for for some feedback, Then told us a little bit more of what's going on in his life. Then some people turned it into an offence on themselves just because someone is inheriting some money. So how was he supposed to know that other posters were going to take it out of hand?
I've never seen Insanity Wolf on these forums, everyone is pretty mild in there post, except when they're throwing pseudo insults at other people and there posts.
You're right. I don't look over my whole posts again, but I reread other peoples.
I would very much like to see posts of mine from someone that disagrees with it. It seems way better then someone saying "I don't like what you said about something but I'm not going to tell you what it was about or even when"

Van_Fox


EmoFox

I find the amount of drama stemming from this topic ironic and amusing. please continue. :3

seriously though, here's a fool-proof way of avoiding unnecessary drama; don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. worry about the things you can control as opposed to the things you can't. And take everything with a grain of salt, because people do post with raw emotion, and people have bad days. The two don't usually mix very well.
Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way you're right.
Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Cry, and the world laughs harder.

kohl

See EmoFox, the thing I'm trying to define is what people refer to as drama. The conflict in this thread, will most likely be retained in this thread. Real drama is an intricate fabrication. Throwing insults or saying you don't agree with someone is not drama.

Pat The Fox

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Since when is throwing insults not drama? It is very much a part of drama or being dramatic through trying to stir things up with spiteful words. Insults in general are also against forum rules, I would suggest brushing up on them.

Posting your disagreement with something is indeed not drama, but that depends on how it is done.

Case one:

"I like orange tic-tacs. They are the most awesome tic-tac flavour!"

"I beg to differ, I believe spearmint are the way to go."


Case two:

"I like orange tic-tacs. They are the most awesome tic-tac flavour!"

"OH my god, orange tic-tacs are for furtards and anyone who eats them is an asshat."


Case one is not drama, it is a debate. Case two is drama.

Besides, everyone knows orange tic-tacs are the best tic-tac. This is a fact. >.>
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Xen Garden

For some reason, I totally feel that this thread's targeted at me.

Zen

Targeted at? Doubtful. Indirectly responsible for the need to have to explain this to people? Possibly.

Pat The Fox

Quote from: Wrath on March 26, 2011, 12:13:43 AM
For some reason, I totally feel that this thread's targeted at me.

Do you have a problem with orange tic-tacs? >.>
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Sevrin

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ORANGE TIC TACS SKJGLWIAUETGLSIUGEWLEUTGWLAWUEGLWAUEG
they make my mouth less fresh than it was before i are them
YOURE A FURTARD AND AN ASSHAT

Ember

I feel that this is relevant: http://www.bcfurries.com/forum/index.php?topic=2872.0

My previous post, titled "Thoughts on community fragmentation and the harm of the 'no drama' mentality."


kohl

Case two seems like an elementary troll.

For Wrath, considering the stand up for women thread, I wouldn't even remotely consider that as drama.

In part, I agree with Embers post. In both issues that are targeted. The over indulgance and the unity of bringing everyone into a non-threatening whole. I figure this thread is more focused on the latter, and my post shall be.
A person will grow as they accept confrontation. "Wolves would not be as skilled as hunters if the deer did not have horns nor hooves." You should be lucky that this "drama" (not actual drama, but what I'm perceiving as what you presume is drama) is, as far as I know, kept in the furry fandom. It would be very unlikely that there could be real drama spread solely on this furom.

Again, why bring this up when there's, atmost, four active posts per branch on the forums? In threads, another four posts per day. For now, why not let people say what ever they got to post? I've never seen any post go beyond the borders of viciousness.

"Friends argue, acquantences greet" quoted from Hal Emmerich.