!!Theoretical Question Time!!

[Drake Wingfire]

Okay okay, everyone cards back in your decks here...  :monocle:

But if we really are going to go this route... There is a sad reason why race relations are what they are in some places, its because no group unanimously believes in wiping the slate clean, hell there isn't even a majority who believe in it regardless of ethnicity, and every group as a collective whole has not really made great strides to enact true equality. All we have right now are whites being called racist for the most petty little things. ever hear the line "its because im black isn't it?" that emerged as s tongue in cheek jab at how quickly some people of color can be to over react when something doesn't go how they want it it, it can even be something as simple as someone telling them an item they want at a store is no longer on sale... Its individuals like this that DON'T want racism to die (at least on a subconscious level maybe even unknown to them), they don't want to see real equality because real equality would mean giving up all race based claims when something doesn't go the way they want it to. This among other things, there are many groups out there who get all sorts of breaks in life, no taxes, preference because they fit an ethnicity, hell even what I like to call "social get out of jail free card"'s and you know, all that would be great and fine, if everyone got those same privileges and little boosts. But since these revolve around things like genders, ethnicity and religions. Of course its gonna totally polarize people and make them "racist" when really it more so boils down to one group seeing another getting special rights, privileges and even material goods and saying "that's not fair.." True equality is as simple as having a real level playing field, people regardless of ethnicity just get bothered when they see others getting a free leg up while they themselves are struggling. Newer generations are rather transparent when it comes to race, they see it as almost nothing of a difference, but as soon as they get out into the real world and a social system set up like it is now... That doesn't last for long, they are raised with a notion that everyone is equal and treated as such, but that's not how current society is playing that game.

But this is where the counter argument of "well its making up for all the horrid shit that happened in the past" comes in, and to that notion I will say. Take it out on the individual or maybe even what ever organization behind it, not the society as a whole, If someone of color came up and slapped me would "all colored people are horrible and assault people, I should sue them all for it" be an appropriate response? logically no, it would be a moronic one. BUT you would be justified in pursuing action against that individual is it was THEM who did the action and not their race. This is another huge slice of the racism-pie, you got people out there who have never done a single mean spirited thing to anyone who was of a different race to themselves, but simply because they are of a different race and even as soon as that person says anything, even if its just an opinion that other groups getting special privileges isn't fair to everyone, people just smack them with the racist stamp. The hilarious stinger? That act itself of labeling someone racist because they are white and don't agree with someone who isn't of their ethnicity?.. its worthy of a face-desk so hard that it could split the planet in two.

[tokar]

"But the world is then reborn, and everybody is equal"

if one god destroys all EXCEPT the white man and the other destroys all, then how is it that everyone is equal?
if the god destroys all then all the people go as well leaving us all dead. 
there is no correct answer because if you choose to save the whites you are racist, and if you choose to destroy all you are a quebecois.  that is just what they are going to do to their province and then this country.

[Fleurette]

Eugh, topic ruined with a petty debate about things that happened decades / centuries ago.

[Tef]

Eugh, topic ruined with a petty debate about things that happened decades / centuries ago.

Well, given the context of your initial question, I wouldn't be surprised.

[kohl]

Grace. I believe I only used the term "you people" once, in response to Nibi. I looked at her profile and she is white.

Take it out on the individual? That would be all the white people that are in this land breeding, and abusing the environment. It's not just about direct assault. It's a culture of people that spread like a sickness.

This stuff is still happening. White people are still holding control of this land, they're still here abusing the land for fortune.

[J.R.Bear]

Grace. I believe I only used the term "you people" once, in response to Nibi. I looked at her profile and she is white.

Take it out on the individual? That would be all the white people that are in this land breeding, and abusing the environment. It's not just about direct assault. It's a culture of people that spread like a sickness.

This stuff is still happening. White people are still holding control of this land, they're still here abusing the land for fortune.

We get to control the land because we earned it with our powerful high tech flags. If you people had thought to put colors on rectangles of cloth and stick them on poles you could have had control of the land.

[Fleurette]

We get to control the land because we earned it with our powerful high tech flags. If you people had thought to put colors on rectangles of cloth and stick them on poles you could have had control of the land.

This is getting brutal..
Can one of the admins please lock this thread?
This is the last time I ever try to get furries to think, god forbid it ends like this.

[Nibi]

*sighs* Jeez, I'm not even going to bother. If you want to be racist and think all white people are whatever it is you think they are, go ahead and do that, as long as you don't start hurting people because of your beliefs.

I wanted to leave a lengthy response but I think it'll fall on deaf ears, so good day to you kohl.

[Sevrin]

Grace. I believe I only used the term "you people" once, in response to Nibi. I looked at her profile and she is white.

Take it out on the individual? That would be all the white people that are in this land breeding, and abusing the environment. It's not just about direct assault. It's a culture of people that spread like a sickness.

This stuff is still happening. White people are still holding control of this land, they're still here abusing the land for fortune.

That's not how it works kohl, this is our land now too, where would you want us to go? we were born here we have lived our whole lives here! sure our ancestors did some pretty terrible shit, but WE didn't and I seriously doubt nibi is out there with a chainsaw chopping down trees every day, it's not that what you're saying isn't true, it's just that you can't apply it to everyone that is white! people are selfish and people are assholes and people don't care about the future of the planet as long as they can make some money, but those are ALL people, not just white people. It's offensive to blame me and Nibi and any other white person you might be blaming for this for things we haven't done, for things we have had no part in at all, don't generalize white people as bad people, it's offensive and will get you ostracized, if you want to get mad at someone, get mad at the people who are actually doing the things you are mad about.

[Tai]

Locked till further notice.

[RainRat]

Grace. I believe I only used the term "you people" once, in response to Nibi. I looked at her profile and she is white.

[admin]Pretty much admitting that your post is intended as a personal attack. Kohl, you are at one warning for personal attacks. (You had one previously, but it expired). I'm unlocking this because I hope we can have interesting conversations in a civil manner.[/admin]

[Fleurette]

Pretty much admitting that your post is intended as a personal attack. Kohl, you are at one warning for personal attacks. (You had one previously, but it expired). I'm unlocking this because I hope we can have interesting conversations in a civil manner.

Thank you RainRat. ^^

Side note: This topic was created for people to have an interesting discussion. I was in no way intending to be racist, and I should not have used the term "Only white people."
Take that condition, and think of it as "Only your race."

[Tef]

The god of salvation cleanses the world of starvation, war, and natural disaster, but only saves white people. All of the people with different skin colours disappear forever.

It's not too late to change it...I'd suggest something different from race if I were you...perhaps...change it to saving only a certain economic/financial class of people or something? That way we can leave race out of the door.

[Fleurette]

It's not too late to change it...I'd suggest something different from race if I were you...perhaps...change it to saving only a certain economic/financial class of people or something? That way we can leave race out of the door.

Mmh, you're right.
Perhaps only your country?

[Tef]

Hmm...on second thought, let's kick away race and country...and while we are at it, eliminate the richest and most influential people from the equation, say, people who earn more than 35-50k per month?