saved two mice D:

[GarryL]

Should have just put the poor thing out of its misery when you caught him. They don't survive long in captivity due to the stress, in hindsight humanely killing it would have been kinder.

[EmoFox]

that's not necessarily true. He was young enough that he probably would have been fine, had the cat not gotten him. They *can* die from the stress in captivity, but they don't always. I did do my research first, tyvm. >:/

[GarryL]

But if the animal was that badly injured, it may have succumbed from its wounds eventually. What were you intending to do afterwards, letting it go or keeping it? Letting it go with its foot broken, it is as good as dead in the wild. And keeping a wild animal as a pet isn't really the best idea. In the condition you said it was in, most likely the animal would not survive long in the wild. Injured animals usually don't, especially those that rely on speed to survive - a limping mouse is a very easy target for a predator.

Your heart is in the right place though, but I don't necessarily believe keeping it was the most humane thing to do. It's just added stress to the animal, it doesn't know that you have kind intentions and will try everything to escape for fear of its life (which it did). Were it me, I would have killed it humanely, to spare it from any more fear or suffering.

[EmoFox]

you really don't know when to drop it do you.

[Ember]

Totally agree with GarryL.

[EmoFox]

yes, but you're a troll who likes to get me riled up so your opinion is worth less than my toenail.

[Ember]

Well I suppose that's better than torturing small animals.

[Blue]

Ok, sorry, but I love animals and all, but when it comes to an injured wild animal, either call up the SPCA and see what they suggest to do, or kill it quick and as painless as possible. Or feed it to someone's pet snake. Whatever.
I admire your commitment to preserving life, but it comes down to the idea of quality versus quantity - Will keeping the wild mouse locked in a cage until it perhaps is cured of its afflictions better for it or is giving it a quick and in my opinion 'dignified' end the better choice?

[GarryL]

you really don't know when to drop it do you.

Drop what?

I am making perfectly valid points. What don't you agree with?

Do you know what else oil does? It screws up their fur's temperature regulation... that's why pouring oil on them on a glue trap is a BAD idea. It's hard to clean off unless you make the time and effort to wash it down, which would be impossible because it'd probably defend itself or die of a heart attack. You must remember that it isn't a pet, it's a wild animal, not used to humans. Keeping it in a cage, IMO, is just causing it more stress. And if it broke its foot, it'd have a permanent limp - no matter how long you think it will heal, it'll have that handicap for the rest of its life. Something that doesn't bode well for it in the wild.

[GarryL]

And thanks for the rude PM by the way. I'm not doing anything here to slight you, I'm just trying to give you some advice. I've maintained a civil tone throughout, and you decide to attack me now? Is that how you work?

[AMZinthos]

Whoa this is getting out of hand here.

GarryL: Yes you're making valid points but examine what you're saying and the effect it has on others. No matter how right you are there is no need to be pushy about it when its clearly bothering someone. The result of this is someone feeling attacked, losing their patience and being unpleasant towards you. Also do not bring private messages in public they are private for a reason so lets keep it that way.

EmoFox: I understand you felt uncomfortable with GarryL's statements but there is no need to be hateful towards him (I do apologize because I shouldn't of known about it in the first place or if its even the truth). This is just a friendly tip so that you don't get caught up in this kind of needless stress  :hug:

[GarryL]

I can't really put it any more nicely. He/she needs to grow a thicker skin and stop assuming that a disagreement with someone means a personal assault.

[Dinsu]

Isn't it kind of unnecessary to reprimand her for something that is already dealt with?  .-. It's hurtful. It's not advice anymore because the situation is no longer present.

Maybe it's time to stop feigning concern and compassion for what this lady does with a rescued baby mouse while you munch on other dead animals that were killed and raised in much harsher conditions (eggs: http://www.humanefood.ca/battery.html pigs: http://www.humanefood.ca/sowstalls.html). Oh and what about the rats and mice and bunnies that were used to test pretty much every single ingredient in your medicine cabinet and shower toiletries.
Have some bloody perspective. She was just trying to help.

[H u nn Y]

that's why pouring oil on them on a glue trap is a BAD idea.

I do believe she never said anything about just pouring the oil onto them, she used a q-tip and gently dabbed it along the parts of fur stuck to the glue trap.

And I have to agree with Zinny, this is getting out of hand. Do consider EmoFox's emotions, the advice is welcomed, but instead of throwing out grusome stuff that you think she should do, the least we could all do is be more supportive of what she's doing, even I would do what she's done. Wild or not, it's always nature to help an injured animal.
(post would have been posted before the last two done by Dinsu and GarryL, but I got called to help my mom with something)

[AMZinthos]

The issue is not about being nice.

you really don't know when to drop it do you.

Drop what?

I am making perfectly valid points. What don't you agree with?

(...)

You are crossing a line here, no matter how nice you are trying to be you're becoming pushy and annoying. This is giving fox unnecessary stress to deal with. Stop trying to come out with as the "I am right" person and just drop the subject.