What the hell happened here?!

[Taiga]

I dunno, I think one of the reasons we haven't seen anything as severe as death threats and whatnot is probably because no one on the board is immature enough, or dramatic enough. to go that far.

You'd be surprised...

I'm pretty sure most people can tell when they've crossed a line, and most of the people on the board are good for telling people when they've crossed a line, or will report them when they continue crossing said line.

Yeah, MOST people.  The thing that happens a lot is that when someone gets pointed out for being a dick, and that person goes onto a messenger of sorts and starts to make threats that way, off the board, even when the incident in question was board related.  Flying under the radar, so to speak. ;)

A good example of such is the "standing up for females" thread, in which several people were told they crossed the line, not only in the OP, but further in the thread where they continued making asses of themselves and they were reported for it. Unfortunately, this is also a good example of the point I think Naetholix was trying to make in the first place(i think), as I believe the mods/admins didn't really do anything about it, and I'm not quite sure why.

I don't envy the position of the mods or admins, really.  It's a very thankless job, and you're in a 'shit if you do shit if you don't' situation.  You try to appease some, and end of pissing others.  There is no happy medium, and you can't please everyone.  I've seen some ugly shit go down and staff get blamed for not doing this or not doing that.  They don't get paid to do any of this.  Sometimes what gets tagged as 'a little mishap' can be pushed asunder because it's no big deal, but others take offense and then you have a shit storm.  I'm sure they have their reasons for doing what they do, and how they do it.

[EmoFox]

Ahh see, if it's happening through a messenger then it's not really ON the board. Which would also explain why i've never experienced it; I don't ad people to my msn that I don't know. except that one time because the email was similar to a friend of mine's and it turned out to be a porn bot. I'd like to believe there aren't a lot of bat-shit crazy people on this board that are like that though...

As for being an admin, yeah, I don't envy them either. But at the same time, i'm a scorpio, so a lot of my rules and whatnot would be very black and white, haha. I tend to have less grey areas, :p more hard ass 'fuck you, you broke the rules ass hole'

[Taiga]

You guys so far have been lucky here to not have to witness such juvenile acts of stupidity, then.  All I can say is, you can't take people at face value on forums.  I'd like to trust people more than I do, but when I see REAL innocent people get fucked over by some schmuck who can't fuck their way out of a wet paper bag, then go and blame someone else for their misgivings, I'll stomp them into the ground with both feet.  
I'll give you an example of such a rude, stupid and immature act.

Guy one is jealous of guy two because guy two is really good friends with girl 1.  Guy one goes and says on a forum that guy two is a useless piece of shit, a kiddie rapist, and needs to be killed.  Guy two comes back and tells guy one to bring it on.  Guy one comes back with more shit to the effect of guy two is lucky to live far away or guy one would kill him.  Girl one talks to guy one and tells him to smarten the hell up and quit acting like a dick.  Guy one shits all over girl on and tells her that she is vermin like guy two and that she can't be trusted.  Guy one gets a warning from staff.  *****   Guy two posts he lost his father due to cancer.  Girl one tells guy two that if he needs to call her to feel free to, and offers comfort.  Guy one remarks to guy two that he deserves to lose his father.  Forum members pile up on guy one, guy one gets banned from forum.  

This actually did happen.  It's amazing what links people send you when really stupid people do really stupid things. :o  All I can say is, be very wary of people who come across as sweet and quiet and trying to butter you up...and you get an odd feeling.  They aren't what they seem.  The real nasty is that girls have the tendency to fall for suckers like this, feel sorry for them, and the next thing they know, they're getting hit on, then called every thing in the book by this douchebag when they don't fall for it and someone happens to bring them up to speed. >:(

[EmoFox]

I can agree with that; you really shouldn't take people for face value on forums. But not necessarily because they're a poser, more because everyone's different on the internet. That's where the difference of opinion is. Not everyone who's an ass online is a pussy offline. Again talking about myself, I am quiet and reserved in person. But give me a reason to beat the shit out of you and I will. you'll get a warning first, but thats about it. Where as when i'm online, i'm probably more likely to pick a fight.

[Taiga]

There's nothing wrong with standing up for what you believe, in fact, more people need to do it.  Just don't bullshit about things to gain attention.  This is where the furry fandom gets so many emo attention whores.  It's like it's overridden with these parasites.  I guess it's a matter of personal opinion, like you said.  With me, if someone wants to yap off at me, be prepared to get it right back.  I think that's why a lot of people don't get in my face because I don't back down and will defend my beliefs to the death.

[Neox]

Renwaldo: You mean to tell me you haven't seen threads on this forum where someone makes a harmless complaint about their personal lives or someone gives some legitimate advice to another and has it thrown back in their face covered in tar and lit on fire with spikes and broken glass glued to it?  Check your PM inbox, I'll link you to a couple that I can think of off the top of my head.

People are still kinda under/overanalyzing what I originally wrote, it seems.  Here, let me try to summarize it in short:

I noticed a gradual increase in heavily-belittling posts made to individuals who were only trying to be nice or get some thoughts off their chest.  It may have been because there has been a recent influx of "poor me" posts and people are getting sick of them; however, I do not see how it is justified to openly and publicly cut into someone for expressing their views.  I was reading a few of the newer ones (new within the last few weeks) and the amount of bullying and insulting remarks I was seeing was making me angry, and I decided to make a thread to bring some awareness to the fact that some people were being real assholes (even bigger than myself) and possibly needed to pause and do a self-check.

I said a few things that made me sound like I was talking cash and I probably was at the time.  I'm used to speaking like this in a real-life scenario; I'm not afraid to tell someone they need to stop and analyze themselves before I have to get militant even if it might spark a violent reaction from that person, as long as there is a chance they might actually listen and understand.  That same attitude bled through into the sentences of my OP even though I was speaking to a general audience.

I don't care what audience I'm saying it to, I'm still going to say it.  It JUST SO HAPPENS that this is a furry-establishment and people automatically defaulted to the whole "Oh you should already KNOW this would happen because it's the FURRY COMMUNITY."  I don't care.  I'll do this anywhere that I have a presence.  I put up with so much bullying in my elementary/middle-school years that I decided to toughen-up and do something to fight back, and I did.  It didn't stop there; I intervened when I saw kids who I'd never even met, being picked-on and beat-up, because I knew how much it hurt, and not just physically.

I know people are going to read that and call me a poser-white-knight.  I can't really defend myself because these people didn't grow up with me and I can't possibly prove what I'm saying.  It won't stop me from saying it, because I know it's true.  I was a fat little nerdy kid who cried a lot when people were mean to me because I didn't understand how or why someone could be so cruel, and crying only drew more attention to myself from kids who liked making others cry.  In about grade 10, I got in shape, started working-out, was avid in karate and began fighting back and winning when my bullies tried to pick on me.  After that, I couldn't stand and watch anyone else have the same thing happen to them knowing I could step in and do something about it.

Or I could be a poser and have lied about everything I just said to make myself look good.  You decide.  I can't actually prove anything.

[Taiga]

I'll go with the fact that it happened.  Just a gut feeling on my end. ;)

I never got bullied as a kid, but I certainly stood up for the ones who did whenever I saw it take place.  Nobody ever came back on me about it either because even at a young age I wouldn't take any shit from anyone.
The sad reality is, in this corrupted fathom many all 'home' there are more posers who lie about everything just to make themselves look good.  There are also many who will copy the advice given to them in notepad or some kind of word program, not actually take that advice to better themselves, then use those exact words that were given to them by someone else, and then post (tell) that to someone else who is having trouble, as their own words were spoken!  How twisted is that?! >:(

[Renwaldo]

No Naeth, I mean to tell you that I've never seen anyone receive death threats or threats of violence on this forum. I was speaking more so to Taiga specifically when I mentioned it.  :P

[Neox]

No Naeth, I mean to tell you that I've never seen anyone receive death threats or threats of violence on this forum. I was speaking more so to Taiga specifically when I mentioned it.  :P

Ten-four.  I thought you were extending your original query from the first page:

Without a specific instance in mind, there is not much I can say about this. . .  ???

[EmoFox]

It could just be a board wide PMS session. XD

But really, i still don't see how posting to a general audience about a select few people who are being assholes is going to fix the problem. if anything, people who weren't necessarily being targeted are going to feel targeted and get upset therefore only making the problem worse.

[Taiga]

Those few people who are being assholes, sadly, screw the dynamics up for everyone else.  It's like the rotten apple in the wheelbarrow.

[Renwaldo]

It could just be a board wide PMS session. XD

But really, i still don't see how posting to a general audience about a select few people who are being assholes is going to fix the problem. if anything, people who weren't necessarily being targeted are going to feel targeted and get upset therefore only making the problem worse.

I am inclined to agree.

A minority of baddies only effect the community as long as people pay attention to them. If everyone ignored those trying to start trouble, then they will disappear. If they're trolling with things as serious as death threats the mods on this forum are very good with getting rid of such posts.

[Zetta]

I am inclined to agree.

A minority of baddies only effect the community as long as people pay attention to them. If everyone ignored those trying to start trouble, then they will disappear. If they're trolling with things as serious as death threats the mods on this forum are very good with getting rid of such posts.

I WILL MURDER YOU VIOLENTLY

[Sikkab]

I think some furs posting in this thread could use <Deleted image> a or two. Just something I've noticed.

[Zetta]

well it shouldn't be surprising for furries of all people to be butthurt, mang :P