What the hell happened here?!

[EmoFox]

Yes, but we already have FIVE. Come on!

I also think you're wrong that no one's reading into what you've said. The thing is, it's already been said. A LOT. Like, oh my GOD, god forbid people act like people. Everything you've stated in your original post is already well known amongst most people who use the internet, let alone this forum, so why do you feel the need to bring it up again? Really? Why? Show of paws, how many furs here already knew that everyone on this board acts like a total jackass sometimes? Acts like they're still in high school, and a total drama queen? I can admit it. I troll for the sake of trolling (usually on omegle) because it amuses me.

Ever heard the quote 'Be the change you wish on the world'? or however it goes. That essentially means If you want change then CHANGE. Lead by example. All that good stuff. Yeah, not everyone's going to listen or follow along, but at least then you're not adding to the drama and douchebaggery that obviously infuriates you.

Also have to disagree with you Zetta; there's one big thing stopping us from having this board how great it apparently was X many years ago. Everyone's attitude of how lame it is now, and how much greater it was back then. When it was only so many people? like what, a group of friends who got along all the time and everything was super awesome fun time with rainbows and unicorns?!

I'd like to think my point has been made, but i'm sure that my frustration got the better of me and now I will be the troll... *sigh*

[mediar]

Emo I love you to pieces, but please, take my advice:

Stop feeding the trolls!


When folks spew out these bursty "OMG" type threads, they are looking for one thing, the responses. They like to be the "asshole(s)" of a forum. I really have no idea why they do this.. boredom, they think it's funny.. I dunno...  Anyway, I've been around long enough to know that and the best way to stop them from posting is to ignore them!


P.S. I still luv you to pieces x3

[EmoFox]

X3 i knoooow but they're the only ones who argue with me anymore. ;.;

[Zetta]

I seriously don't recomend this, but if you want to argue, go play Graal online.

i regret spending years playing that game.
you say anything and people have a habit of becoming opinionated entrepreneurs

[Zythren]

I seriously don't recomend this, but if you want to argue, go play Graal online.

i regret spending years playing that game.
you say anything and people have a habit of becoming opinionated entrepreneurs

Omg lol I remember playing that game.
Drama drama slightly fun more drama.

[mediar]

X3 i knoooow but they're the only ones who argue with me anymore. ;.;

:P

[RainRat]

"Drama" is a difficult thing to define. Which is why me and the other moderators try to give some leeway in this regard. Sometimes someone questioning assumptions that the group takes for granted can be a good thing.

But leeway can go too far, and judging from recent discussions it may have gone on too far. There is a discussion about what direction to take, in Forum Help, and we're open to feedback.

If I thought the people who brought this up were trolls, I would have locked or deleted it long ago.

[kohl]

You shouldn't run blindly into a herde with no target. If people are targeting you, target them back. If it continues on, then start having fun and personalizing your opinions againts theres'. Really good stuff.

[z00p]

Yeah, tell me about it.  There's like 90% incidence of emoness and drama in the furry fandom.   When they cry to me, and if I know it's very trivial, i'll give them some advice, if they don't listen, I won't give them any sympathy >:|

"boohoooo, I'm so lonely! I have no friends D: What can I do???"

"well, you can start by cheering up, nobody likes someone who's down all the time"

"boohoooooo, theres nothing to cheer up forr, waaahhh"

"yeah ok, ur right, bai!"




But still, you gotta do it politely.  Great care is needed when saying something or else internet white knights will be all "yo, ur wrong, bro"
And then you'd be like, "no i'm not"
And then they're all, "yeah you are"



Yeh... comes from experience =p

[Zythren]

Yeah, tell me about it.  There's like 90% incidence of emoness and drama in the furry fandom.   When they cry to me, and if I know it's very trivial, i'll give them some advice, if they don't listen, I won't give them any sympathy >:|

"boohoooo, I'm so lonely! I have no friends D: What can I do???"

"well, you can start by cheering up, nobody likes someone who's down all the time"

"boohoooooo, theres nothing to cheer up forr, waaahhh"

"yeah ok, ur right, bai!"




But still, you gotta do it politely.  Great care is needed when saying something or else internet white knights will be all "yo, ur wrong, bro"
And then you'd be like, "no i'm not"
And then they're all, "yeah you are"



Yeh... comes from experience =p

That's a pretty shitty field to have experience in xD
I usually just don't bother even talking to them unless I'm already friends with them.
Seems to work out pretty well :P

[z00p]

Hey, when you're got nothing to do but hit the intarnet forums all day, you eventually wanna start throwing feces around at people (figuratively!) 

[H u nn Y]

*p00z out some jelly beans and starts throwing them at pplz* 83

[Neox]

When folks spew out these bursty "OMG" type threads, they are looking for one thing, the responses. They like to be the "asshole(s)" of a forum. I really have no idea why they do this.. boredom, they think it's funny.. I dunno...  Anyway, I've been around long enough to know that and the best way to stop them from posting is to ignore them!

Actually, I believe it's more so because we "assholes" get sick of watching the same people make the same mistakes and hurt other individuals with their ignorance.  We watch the "ignore it and it will go away," bullshit try and fail; we watch the light-hearted attempts at "killing with kindness" go tits-up, and we discover that the only way to get peoples' attention is to verbally slap them in the face with a big, rotten zucchini coated in lime.  Even if it doesn't fix it, at the very least, it allows the accused to step-up and make a complete idiot out of themselves in the public eye by trying fruitlessly to defend their damaged pride so people can watch and be like, "Hey, that guy's kinda dumb!  I'm going to preserve my intelligence and stay the fuck away from him!" 8D

And if you think I'm going to stop posting here because I've managed to get people pissed off at me, you're sadly mistaken.  As far as I know, I haven't broken any forum rules; I haven't directly attacked anyone.  I still enjoy posting here and I'm going to continue to do so in what I believe to be a respectful manner.  If you take exception to that, feel free to PM me any time to discuss my methods of discussion and debate.  I had a gripe that I wanted to kvetch about and I did just that.  Some engaged me with intelligent feedback and some decided to just call me a troll and pretend like I don't know what I'm talking about.

I don't do this shit because I'm bored.  I do this shit because I don't enjoy sitting around watching people get away with being true, inconsiderate assholes to others with no provocation, and as long as I have to bear witness to it, I'm going to intervene.  Fucking sue me for "repeating what's already been said," obviously it needs to be said again and again and again because some people just don't get it.  I like to think it's possible to calmly negotiate with people when they're acting like retards, but sometimes they need to hear the cut-and-dry ugly truth to make the rusty old gears start turning.

[EmoFox]

So then why not get their individual attention and PM them? Because honestly, as far as I know, i'm not one of the people you're ranting about, and I don't give a rats ass about other people choosing to be stupid on the internet. That's their problem, and it'll cause them problems through their life, so why do I need to get involved? I can understand the frustration of people being asshats, but if you're going to call them out on it have the balls to do it properly instead of hiding behind a generalizing post saying "certain people are being asshats, and you all suck for tolerating it." Why not PM them and say "why are you being such an asshat?" or at least trying to understand it from their point of view, because I'm willing to bet most of them don't think they're being asshats. Like Reistark, he's been called out as being an asshat, a few times if I'm not mistaken. Then he started the aspergers thread, people said "you're still an asshat" he acknowledged the fact, and I don't think anything else all that important was said, but I have noticed he's been a little less of an asshat. an yes Asshat is the word of the day, thanks for noticing.

So basically, instead of posting another  "OMG DRAMA" thread, why not deal with it in the same mature manner that you're asking these people to act with in the first place? if you fight fire with fire all you're going to do is burn down the town. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. And more often than not hearing the "cut and ugly truth" in a rant as you've posted it is just going to piss them off for being targeted, if they realize they're even being targeted, and only bring to worsen the situation. In short, slapping them in the face with a rotten lime covered zucchini is only going to make it worse. Like running through a room full of starving dogs while wearing a suit made entirely out of fresh cut beef steaks. it's a bad idea.

[Neox]

So if you claim to not give a rat's ass, then why are you continuing this post-rally with me?  I'm not trying to discourage you from doing so, but in trying so hard to point me out for being a hypocrite, you're starting to toe the line yourself here.  I actually don't mind hearing what you have to say because you actually do a good job of arguing your views even if you are trying to pick me apart.

And just a question: how could you possibly know whether or not I send PMs to people regarding specific issues brought up between them and myself?  I assure you that I do, in fact, exercise my ability to write PMs towards individuals and that's only if I don't feel like calling them out in the very thread that the issue surfaced in the first place.

I'm done trying to defend my stance here because all I'm going to do is repeat over and over again that this isn't about me.  I stand by my methods of implementation of my views and you may very well continue to try and psychoanalyze me off my soap-box.