sorry about this rant

Started by Magromancer, November 28, 2016, 09:40:02 AM

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Magromancer

sorry about this post but I need to vent right now.

I have been getting extreme hate towards myself and it's all to do with me being in this Fandom, I've went through phases in my life and I've had my parents oppose me at every single juncture but I told them about the Furry Fandom and I have never had as much hate towards one of my interests as I have with being a Furry.

It's getting worse and worse right now and I fear that my parents might actually kick me out of the house and if that happens I know I'm going to be dead in less than a month.

I get that we're one of the most hated fandoms in the world but I don't get why my parents have this much hate towards me being in the Fandom, we do a lot of good for people with donating to charities and making people feel good about themselves when they're feeling down.

With me being a magician and owning a lot of stuff I can't move out of the house, and I don't have a real paying job right now, which makes it even harder for me.  and to top it all off I bought my ticket to go to Vancoufur in March and I can't get a refund for it so that'd be a couple hundred dollars gone to waste if I don't go to it.

Again sorry for this rant but I needed to vent my frustration.  I just hope I can show them that it's nothing to worry about, but I fear it might be too late.

Gizmo

Quote from: Magromancer on November 28, 2016, 09:40:02 AM
sorry about this post but I need to vent right now.

I have been getting extreme hate towards myself and it's all to do with me being in this Fandom, I've went through phases in my life and I've had my parents oppose me at every single juncture but I told them about the Furry Fandom and I have never had as much hate towards one of my interests as I have with being a Furry.

It's getting worse and worse right now and I fear that my parents might actually kick me out of the house and if that happens I know I'm going to be dead in less than a month.

I get that we're one of the most hated fandoms in the world but I don't get why my parents have this much hate towards me being in the Fandom, we do a lot of good for people with donating to charities and making people feel good about themselves when they're feeling down.

With me being a magician and owning a lot of stuff I can't move out of the house, and I don't have a real paying job right now, which makes it even harder for me.  and to top it all off I bought my ticket to go to Vancoufur in March and I can't get a refund for it so that'd be a couple hundred dollars gone to waste if I don't go to it.

Again sorry for this rant but I needed to vent my frustration.  I just hope I can show them that it's nothing to worry about, but I fear it might be too late.
Firstly, take a deep breath ...
2ndly, I don't know of any parent who would see their own son on the street because of a group you are affiliating yourself with. The last thing a parent wants is to see their child suffer. My guess is that they are looking out for your best interests and only want the best for you. Their fear (I am guessing) is their fear of the unknown or have been misguided as to what the furry fandom is all about. Either way, education is the key. If they are so worried about their son or daughter getting involved in something that is not good for their son or daughter, I suggest they come to an event and see for themselves that we are harmless and would never wish harm on anyone. Have them get to know others who are a part of the fandom so they can see we are just a group of socially akward, fun people who help others 'fit in'. Furries are some of the most generous people I have ever been associated with. It is doubtful that any furry would allow another to be tossed onto the street. We care for each other like a family.
3rdly, As far as the "extreme hate" ... I am guessing the majority of this is coming from your parents. Usually hatred stems from lack of knowledge. The fandom has a broad array of people in it - from small children to older adults. If you get the chance, perhaps you can show them some quick videos on YouTube that show some of the goofy things we do ... there is one out there about the Syrian refugees at the last VF ... and be sure to let your parents know that each year, we pick a charity and donate thousands of dollars each year. Once you show them this, I am sure they will find very little to 'hate'.
Coming out as a furry is an extremely personal thing and done in your own way. Perhaps a low key approach to the fandom might be in order?
I hope this helps. Deep breaths ...

Magromancer

thanks for the reply Gizmo, I showed my mom the syrian refugee video and told her about the charity work the fandom does at Conventions and other things like that, my mom was ok with it for a little while but when I showed her some videos on YouTube of the last Vancoufur and that's when she started to freak out.

Gizmo

Quote from: Magromancer on November 28, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
thanks for the reply Gizmo, I showed my mom the syrian refugee video and told her about the charity work the fandom does at Conventions and other things like that, my mom was ok with it for a little while but when I showed her some videos on YouTube of the last Vancoufur and that's when she started to freak out.
Freak Out about what? A bunch of fur suiters dancing?
As one of the 'older' furries out there (most likely closer to your parents age), if there is something I can do, let me know ...

Samurai Kai

Why does your family have to know everything? o-o just don't mention it to them. It's not their business anyway.
I am but a blade in the crowd.

I have seen what comes of those who raise themselves above others.

Friduwulf

Quote from: Samurai Kai on November 30, 2016, 06:20:23 PM
Why does your family have to know everything? o-o just don't mention it to them. It's not their business anyway.

I personally think that this is a bad line of thought. If I were a parent and I had a child who was getting into a new fandom such as the furry fandom or whatever else, I would want them to be upfront about it and let me know about it. There should be no reason to hide anything if you are doing nothing wrong. If I were a parent and a child of mine was being extremely secretive anout it my thoughts would be "what are they getting up to that they don't wand me to know about? Are they doing drugs, or harming people, or something else?" Where as if they were up front about it and said that they were involved in it because they enjoy the art, or they want to go to cons to meet new friends, krthey want to fursuit because they enjoy making people smile and it's a form of expression for them than it would really put my mind at ease and I would be more interested in learning about it rather than going based off of the bad stereotypes that the fandom has. My 2 cents on that subject anyway.

As for me myself, I have told my friends about my involvement in the fandom, same goes for family. I have many friends that looked up furry stuff online because they were curious as to what I was getting involved in, and even though they came across some yiff art in their searches,ost seemed to be pretty cool with it. I do have some friends that o still hang out with, and while they have zero interest in it and have told me it weirds them out, I just turn the furry side if me off when hanging with them. I do however have them on my Facebook and do occasionally post fursuiting pictures or art of my character or whatever and if they choose to like the pics and status updates than cool but if they don't want to see it, they can keep scrolling or unfollow or whatever. I even went to fureh last year which tool place on mother's day weekend and so decided to give my mother a call due to it being mother's day, and she answered with "is this Fridu I'm talking to?" Which honestly left me speechless for a couple minutes but she's cool with it because I am open and honest about my involvement.

Anyways, I'm just kind of babbling on at this point, so in a TL:DR format, be outward and honest with your involvement noatter what it is, because as long as your not causing harm to yourself or others there really should be nothing to hide. Hope everything works out for ya in the end, and your parents at least become more accepting of your new found interest in the furry fandom. There really is a lot of good we do, even through the local community.
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Owl

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Quote from: Friduwulf on December 05, 2016, 10:57:43 PM
I personally think that this is a bad line of thought. If I were a parent and I had a child who was getting into a new fandom such as the furry fandom or whatever else, I would want them to be upfront about it and let me know about it. There should be no reason to hide anything if you are doing nothing wrong. If I were a parent and a child of mine was being extremely secretive anout it my thoughts would be "what are they getting up to that they don't wand me to know about? Are they doing drugs, or harming people, or something else?" Where as if they were up front about it and said that they were involved in it because they enjoy the art, or they want to go to cons to meet new friends, krthey want to fursuit because they enjoy making people smile and it's a form of expression for them than it would really put my mind at ease and I would be more interested in learning about it rather than going based off of the bad stereotypes that the fandom has. My 2 cents on that subject anyway.

Magromancer's age listed is 32. Which is hardly a child.

Personally my suggestion to Magromancer is to stop seeking validation for your life decisions from your parents if they are never going to give you any. And finding a paying job so you can move out and you won't have to worry about if they agree with your lifestyle decisions.

Quote from: Friduwulf on December 05, 2016, 10:57:43 PM
As for me myself, I have told my friends about my involvement in the fandom, same goes for family. I have many friends that looked up furry stuff online because they were curious as to what I was getting involved in, and even though they came across some yiff art in their searches,ost seemed to be pretty cool with it. I do have some friends that o still hang out with, and while they have zero interest in it and have told me it weirds them out, I just turn the furry side if me off when hanging with them. I do however have them on my Facebook and do occasionally post fursuiting pictures or art of my character or whatever and if they choose to like the pics and status updates than cool but if they don't want to see it, they can keep scrolling or unfollow or whatever. I even went to fureh last year which tool place on mother's day weekend and so decided to give my mother a call due to it being mother's day, and she answered with "is this Fridu I'm talking to?" Which honestly left me speechless for a couple minutes but she's cool with it because I am open and honest about my involvement.

I don't generally recommend people tell people like their parents they're into it because it will just weird them out. And they generally won't ever understand. And there's very little to be gained from telling them apart from having slightly less insecurity about mentioning how much you like cartoon foxes towards them.

I really feel people conflate something like furry with sexuality and it feels very unwarranted and perverse. To me it's like showing people your Star Trek fanpage.

Korozar

Quote from: Friduwulf on December 05, 2016, 10:57:43 PMI would be more interested in learning about it rather than going based off of the bad stereotypes that the fandom has. My 2 cents on that subject anyway.

Not everyone is so understanding unfortunately. What I find a bit worrying is that if Magromancer's age is accurate, he's more than old enough to make his own decisions on this sort of thing, and yet they're trying to decide for him by threatening to kick him out of the house. That's kinda scary manipulative!

Magromancer

Quote from: ProjectX593 on December 05, 2016, 11:49:39 PM
Not everyone is so understanding unfortunately. What I find a bit worrying is that if Magromancer's age is accurate, he's more than old enough to make his own decisions on this sort of thing, and yet they're trying to decide for him by threatening to kick him out of the house. That's kinda scary manipulative!

Yeah I know what you mean, but it doesn't help that I'm also intellectually disabled so they're constantly trying to make me become "normal" it always puts me in mind of this meme I saw online, it stated:

People should seriously stop  expecting normal from me...  They all know it's not going to happen.

another quote I always turn to is this one:

Magromancer's this, Magromancer's that.  Magromancer's me bro, let me be me.

Yes I know that's from a movie but I always turn to it when people try to make me into what they think should be "normal" behaviour, I am not normal and don't pretend to be normal, why should I be like everyone else?  everyone should be unique, otherwise it'd be a pretty boring place to live.

Samurai Kai

Quote from: Friduwulf on December 05, 2016, 10:57:43 PM
I personally think that this is a bad line of thought. If I were a parent and I had a child who was getting into a new fandom such as the furry fandom or whatever else, I would want them to be upfront about it and let me know about it. There should be no reason to hide anything if you are doing nothing wrong. If I were a parent and a child of mine was being extremely secretive anout it my thoughts would be "what are they getting up to that they don't wand me to know about? Are they doing drugs, or harming people, or something else?" Where as if they were up front about it and said that they were involved in it because they enjoy the art, or they want to go to cons to meet new friends, krthey want to fursuit because they enjoy making people smile and it's a form of expression for them than it would really put my mind at ease and I would be more interested in learning about it rather than going based off of the bad stereotypes that the fandom has. My 2 cents on that subject anyway.

As for me myself, I have told my friends about my involvement in the fandom, same goes for family. I have many friends that looked up furry stuff online because they were curious as to what I was getting involved in, and even though they came across some yiff art in their searches,ost seemed to be pretty cool with it. I do have some friends that o still hang out with, and while they have zero interest in it and have told me it weirds them out, I just turn the furry side if me off when hanging with them. I do however have them on my Facebook and do occasionally post fursuiting pictures or art of my character or whatever and if they choose to like the pics and status updates than cool but if they don't want to see it, they can keep scrolling or unfollow or whatever. I even went to fureh last year which tool place on mother's day weekend and so decided to give my mother a call due to it being mother's day, and she answered with "is this Fridu I'm talking to?" Which honestly left me speechless for a couple minutes but she's cool with it because I am open and honest about my involvement.

Anyways, I'm just kind of babbling on at this point, so in a TL:DR format, be outward and honest with your involvement noatter what it is, because as long as your not causing harm to yourself or others there really should be nothing to hide. Hope everything works out for ya in the end, and your parents at least become more accepting of your new found interest in the furry fandom. There really is a lot of good we do, even through the local community.

I understand your opinion. I mean, I told my mother I was a furry and she didn't really know what they were either, a lot of her friends just know furries by that one CSI episode, so I explained to her, I even took her to VancouFur one year where she got hugged, lol. Just me personally I think being a furry isn't something everyone has to know about, including your family, because it's not that big of a deal as some people make it out to be, you don't have to mention it to everyone kinda thing.
I am but a blade in the crowd.

I have seen what comes of those who raise themselves above others.

n1ghtmar3w0lf

I don't get why anyone hates a fandom like furry ,people are gonna do what ever they want , if someone don't like it look at something else,such a simple solution right

Friduwulf

Quote from: Samurai Kai on December 07, 2016, 09:55:35 AM
I understand your opinion. I mean, I told my mother I was a furry and she didn't really know what they were either, a lot of her friends just know furries by that one CSI episode, so I explained to her, I even took her to VancouFur one year where she got hugged, lol. Just me personally I think being a furry isn't something everyone has to know about, including your family, because it's not that big of a deal as some people make it out to be, you don't have to mention it to everyone kinda thing.

I get where your coming from too. Lol. I figured I have a suit,a little art here and there in the house, and I'm not willing to hide it so why not just let her know, shell find out through visits or FB anyway. Hell, even the people at work know about it, the owners wife, who is an engineer there, said my suit actually suits my personality. Was an od
d thing to hear from her but wasn't bad so there's that. Haha.
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tokar

you could always tell your parents that you are going to run away with a 35 year old prostitute, has two disabled kids at home and her oldest at 18 is a delinquint kid living on the streets and only comes to see her when he wants money.  he's not that bad a guy but while i help his mom i cant help him too.  once you help her off of heroin, at which time you should be a full vegan, you will then make sure she is taking her meds for aids regularly, and eating healthier.


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and after they get over the shock, tell them that you just pointed out that things could be worse.  at least you aren't gong out and stealing cars and breaking in to houses.

you may find that the fandom for you is a fad, or other things become more important to you, or you get very involved.  either way, you are networking, making friends (albeit weird ones), and not doing anything for them to get a phone call, "mr Jones? Your son Billy is at the police station and you can see him tomorrow at the courthouse."

as a young adult you are supposed to be preparing for life on your own.  how can you learn from your decisions if they want to make all of them for you? 
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tokar

Quote from: Magromancer on December 06, 2016, 03:24:57 AM
Yeah I know what you mean, but it doesn't help that I'm also intellectually disabled so they're constantly trying to make me become "normal" it always puts me in mind of this meme I saw online, it stated:

People should seriously stop  expecting normal from me...  They all know it's not going to happen.

another quote I always turn to is this one:

Magromancer's this, Magromancer's that.  Magromancer's me bro, let me be me.

Yes I know that's from a movie but I always turn to it when people try to make me into what they think should be "normal" behaviour, I am not normal and don't pretend to be normal, why should I be like everyone else?  everyone should be unique, otherwise it'd be a pretty boring place to live.


actually every thing you do is normal.  normal for you.  might not be normal for someone else but it is normal for you. so don't be saying that you are not normal, unless you mean that you are not feeling well and should be in bed.
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Magromancer

thanks for the replies everyone, my dad hasn't said anything past the whole part of being shocked about it but my mom has voiced her displeasure in me being in the Fandom thinking it's gross and saying stuff like she doesn't want me to go to these dinner meets and stuff like that because I don't know anyone there and that I could be hanging out with people who will do me harm.  I could say that if I don't hang out with them how will I ever get to know what kind of people they are?