animal testing. nanotechnology

Started by wolf4furbears, February 18, 2013, 03:42:40 AM

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wolf4furbears

hey there.
anybody else interested in nanotechnology?
i have been nerding out recently and reading a lot about nano tech and how in the next few decades it will be used to improve our health, our intelligence and even our lifespan.
i read about an experiment on a rabbit recently where they cured type 1 diabetes using nanotechnology.
considering most medicine unfortunately is tested on animals, is it not likely brain and enhancements will first be tested on animals?
how far will they go??
how would we explain to an animal with enhanced intelligence that it is an experiment? what rights are then given etc etc....

anyways.
yeah.... 
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Pixel



In all seriousness, I'm game if they are for nanotechnology.
Prinnies, dood!

Kyroo

I've worked in an area where there was a lot of animal testing. You learn to look the other way because its a fact of the science. Without it, we progress slower. Nobody wants to wait 20 years for what can be accomplished in 3. So society all does the "suspend your disbelief" thing. We all pretend nothing bad happens and doctors and scientists are just really good at coming up with new inventive ways to fix our broken bodies, in return, we get to cure things.

I don't like it, I wouldn't take part in it, I love animals as much as anyone, but I didn't open the cage doors and let them run free. Why? I hate diseases that plague us as much as the next guy.

Fact of life, we've been doing it forever, it isn't likely to stop any time soon.

professor whovianart

unfortunately but true, during wwII, many advances were made from all the experiments in the concentration camps, and another unfortunate bounty for science came from the chernobyl.
you should join the "Ethereal friends of professor whovianart" on facebook, if anything, to find out where i currently am, or will be.

J.R.Bear

I have no suspension of disbelief. I fully support scientific animal testing, even though some of the things they have to go through may seem awful, its always for the greater good. Those who vehemently argue that there should be no animal testing are honestly the ones in denial. I'm sure they would have no qualms about accepting a life saving procedure or drug, that had been developed with the use of animal testing.

wolf4furbears

im more so thinking about the rights of said animal when its intelligence is boosted to nearly that of a human. will it then have rights???
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J.R.Bear

In that case I would say that they SHOULD have rights, i think anything with full sentience has rights. However I can assure you that the law makers and researchers will say otherwise. They will still need to experiment with them after their intelligence has been boosted.

Sevrin

I'm not gonna argue against the point that animal testing can be cruel to the animals, but in this situation the rabbit seemed to come out ahead, so if science gets done and the rabbit gets cured, it's a win win right?

IrishLion

Quote from: Sevrin on February 22, 2013, 03:36:07 AM
I'm not gonna argue against the point that animal testing can be cruel to the animals, but in this situation the rabbit seemed to come out ahead, so if science gets done and the rabbit gets cured, it's a win win right?

For the bunnies who are.. still alive ?
"God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of his own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players, to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker in a pitch dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time."   - Terry Pratchett

J.R.Bear

Quote from: WhiteLion on February 22, 2013, 01:42:22 PM
For the bunnies who are.. still alive ?

I loled. 2 for 2 on the puns, your dropping them like their Pogs in the 90's.

IrishLion

Quote from: KermodeJay on February 22, 2013, 08:58:29 PM
I loled. 2 for 2 on the puns, your dropping them like their Pogs in the 90's.

That wasn't really a pun.... be careful, or I'm libel to take you to court for pun-itive damages....
"God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of his own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players, to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker in a pitch dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time."   - Terry Pratchett