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: Help with going sleep?
: Fleurette August 25, 2012, 04:51:42 -06:00
Hi guys!
Lately I've been having a lot of trouble going to bed early, and I think I'm starting to pay for it..
I don't really like waking up at 3 PM and feeling like my day is gone.
This topic might seem a bit silly, but do any of you guys do anything special that helps you fall asleep when you're not tired?
I'd really appreciate some good advice, I need to start sleeping!
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: Temrin August 25, 2012, 05:11:19 -06:00
Heres a list of things.

Do something active during the day. Work out. Go for a jog or a run. Even a walk helps.
Things to physically wear you out.

If your brain doesnt want to stop working and keeps you up, try writing what you are thinking about in a journal or something.
It is scientifically proven to help your brain relax because your subconscious now knows that your thoughts are being processed to a physical scape outside of the brain. So if you have to remember them, they are written for you to see later. With that said and done, your brain can now settle down and stop trying to remember all the little things in your day to day life. (I do this myself when i'm troubled and it helps a lot :3 )

Drinking De-cafienated and calming tea's help. Chamomile is a favorite of mine. I don't like tea at all really. But if i steep the Chamomile long enough, its nice. even putting a little dash of milk in it will take away the watery taste if you dont like that.

But being active during the day definitely helps tucker me out and ready for bed earlier in the evening :3
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: Esquire Fox August 25, 2012, 05:34:31 -06:00
I have the same problem, but I can go to bed and fall asleep whenever. I choose not too
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: Icey Dominus August 25, 2012, 07:37:27 -06:00
well you diet, and exercise always are a factor, then there is your bed, is it good for you to get a proper sleep?
When do you go to bed? Any extra stress in your life?
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: Fleurette August 25, 2012, 07:56:18 -06:00
: Icey Dominus  August 25, 2012, 07:37:27 -06:00
well you diet, and exercise always are a factor, then there is your bed, is it good for you to get a proper sleep?
When do you go to bed? Any extra stress in your life?

Mmmh.. I don't exercise much, and my bed is alright, a bit stiff, but nothing horrible.
I go to bed really early in the morning, and stress? Lots, all the time. -nod-
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: ravewoif August 25, 2012, 08:51:59 -06:00
Search up how to reset your circadian rhythm.
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: Renwaldo August 26, 2012, 02:18:09 -06:00
It's difficult to get around here nowadays, but I've found a lot of success in rohypnol. It's a tad expensive, maybe try it for a few days at first and see if it's for you. It's hard to find but for me it's definitely worth the cost.

Just be sure to take it right before you go to bed though.
It knocks you out quite quickly. It's not something you want to try being awake with, I've fainted on it before, after taking it and waiting too long before retiring to my chambers.
It works really well. XD
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: Fleurette August 26, 2012, 03:54:26 -06:00
: Renwaldo  August 26, 2012, 02:18:09 -06:00
It's difficult to get around here nowadays, but I've found a lot of success in rohypnol. It's a tad expensive, maybe try it for a few days at first and see if it's for you. It's hard to find but for me it's definitely worth the cost.

Just be sure to take it right before you go to bed though.
It knocks you out quite quickly. It's not something you want to try being awake with, I've fainted on it before, after taking it and waiting too long before retiring to my chambers.
It works really well. XD

Ahaha, I see..
I think I'm just going to stay awake all day until about 9 or 10 PM.
Even as I type this, it's only 2:53 AM, So I've got a long way to go...
But If I drink a lot of coffee, I bet I can do it!
Ggggaaaaahhh!! It's time to push my body to the LIMITS! D<
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: tokar August 26, 2012, 11:44:10 -06:00
a non drug method of getting to sleep when you need to will cost about $25 max to get started.  first you go to a hardware store and buy a 10 lb hammer, some strong string and an eye hook.  screw the eye hook into the ceiling just above your pillow.  feed the string though the hook and then tie on the hammer.  to test it out, lay on the bed and raise hammer up to the ceiling, then let it go.

upon the impact of the hammer to your head you should be instantly asleep.

no guarantees about what you might look like after a week of use.  enjoy

or maybe try going to sleep earlier.  learn some relaxing tricks to help you go to sleep such as doing the same routine such as brush teeth, comb hair, and read a chapter.  this also tells the body it is time to relax.  believe it or not - try relaxing your tongue.  i mean relax it so that it is not pushing up on the roof of your mouth.  relaxing your tongue helps to relax the rest of you so you can get to sleep easier.  try it

good luck
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: Icey Dominus August 26, 2012, 12:55:17 -06:00
If you can stay away from the drugs you really should, they have allot of side affects and just simply are not good for your body,
have your tired just some sleepy time tea? It always knocks me out. You dont want to sleep all day the key here for sure is VERY simple GO TO BED EARLIER!! and thats it. You will sleep during the night AND not the day. lol  :-3
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: Silvermink August 28, 2012, 02:38:42 -06:00
Do you sit on the computer right up until you go to bed, or anything like that? I found what helped me a lot was getting off the computer an hour or so before bed, or at least wrapping up the video games then, and doing something more relaxing for a while. Since I started doing that I very rarely have trouble getting to sleep.
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: Ceowolf August 29, 2012, 12:54:41 -06:00
im not one for suggesting drugs or anything and i think everyone else has suggested everything i would/already do, but i take melatonin some nights when i realize my sleep schedule is messed up. melatonin is a natural thing that your body produces that regulates your sleep, so by taking a tablet it increases the amount of melatonin in your system therefor helping you fall asleep at night and wake up in the morning. it even says on the bottle that its for fixing altered sleep schedules and jet lag. anyways, just a suggestion, you can buy it at most any drug store off the shelf.
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: Elias.Ringtail August 29, 2012, 02:03:17 -06:00
: Silvermink  August 28, 2012, 02:38:42 -06:00
Do you sit on the computer right up until you go to bed, or anything like that?

I thought I might read this whole thread and not come across this one! XD Turning off the "constant-streaming-stimulus" that is the Internet is huge. Temrin was also right on the money, I think. Your body needs physical stimulus, as well, to be happy.

I deal with on-again, off-again insomnia issues that used to get quite out of hand, and I know exactly how frustrating it is. For me, I think that a big part of my brain hates sleeping, and sees it as an unproductive waste of time. What helped me was thinking about my sleep as an investment in the following day, and thereby every bit as important as whatever my brain wanted to do instead.

I would say, try to get at least a good 30-60 minutes of physical activity sometime after your mid-day meal (nothing crazy, just enough to get your body's systems out of "idle" for a bit), cut the caffeine sometime before dinner, and shut down the compy a while before "bedtime". :) OOH! That's a good one, too: Set a Bedtime! It seems silly and childish, or whatever, but if your brain is anything like mine, it will help a lot.

It takes a little while for changes in your circadian rhythm to set in, but they will if you're persistent. I hope some of this helps. ^^
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: Ember August 29, 2012, 04:55:19 -06:00
Melatonin.

Cheap, natural and it works pretty well.

You can buy it anywhere you buy vitamins.
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: Silvermink August 30, 2012, 11:17:07 -06:00
On the topic of computers and getting to sleep, I also recommend F.lux (http://stereopsis.com/flux/), which is a nifty app that changes the color temperature of your display by time of day, so you're not staring at a midday-like display right before you go to bed.
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: Fleurette August 30, 2012, 08:42:52 -06:00
: Silvermink  August 30, 2012, 11:17:07 -06:00
On the topic of computers and getting to sleep, I also recommend F.lux (http://stereopsis.com/flux/), which is a nifty app that changes the color temperature of your display by time of day, so you're not staring at a midday-like display right before you go to bed.

Thanks! I just downloaded and it's pretty cute actually.
This might just help.
I've still been having so much trouble sleeping..
I think I should just super exercise for a million hours until my body gives up.
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: kohl September 01, 2012, 06:21:07 -06:00
Melatonin is terrible. It worked the first time then it became useless.
No processed sugar at night would help.

Writing at 5:20am, can't sleep -.-
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: Tef September 01, 2012, 08:14:25 -06:00
Nothing beats the insomniac feeling of jetlag. This is what a 15 hour time difference from a 12 hour flight would do to you. Kinda sucks when you have school in 3-4 days time with a biological clock calibrated to an Asian time.
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: Sasha September 01, 2012, 05:14:29 -06:00
: kohl  September 01, 2012, 06:21:07 -06:00
No processed sugar at night would help.
(recently I discovered [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucrose#Human_health) [2] (http://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/busting-sugar-hyperactivity-myth)) sugar does nothing to your energy level other than providing what starches or other foods containing carbohydrates (more energy than fats or proteins) give you. Sugar rush most likely a mind thing most of the time. But of course, eating things with energy at all at night not a good idea... maybe processing it keeps you up.

Melatonin is terrible. It worked the first time then it became useless.
I tried melatonin with no success too... second time it gave me a lucid nightmare oddly enough.

Various sleeping meds, all seem to pin me down, mind flutters on trying to ignore it - I find it odd, got off 'em soon after I tried each one.

Seems putting laptop away, reducing stimulus, and maybe watching at most a single show (no ongoing news channel) seems to work...at 3am I can just get to sleep within half an hour it seems now.

: "FleuretteI think I should just super exercise for a million hours until my body gives up.
maybe not so good. I walk 10k each night as part of my tiger roamyness, I keep myself company and it seems very short, but it certainly helps me to think (blood pumping helps me process reality a bit better) and sleep soon after I come back.

Tiger.
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: Fleurette September 01, 2012, 06:08:24 -06:00
: TigerKindred  September 01, 2012, 05:14:29 -06:00
(recently I discovered [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucrose#Human_health) [2] (http://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/busting-sugar-hyperactivity-myth)) sugar does nothing to your energy level other than providing what starches or other foods containing carbohydrates (more energy than fats or proteins) give you. Sugar rush most likely a mind thing most of the time. But of course, eating things with energy at all at night not a good idea... maybe processing it keeps you up.
I tried melatonin with no success too... second time it gave me a lucid nightmare oddly enough.

Various sleeping meds, all seem to pin me down, mind flutters on trying to ignore it - I find it odd, got off 'em soon after I tried each one.

Seems putting laptop away, reducing stimulus, and maybe watching at most a single show (no ongoing news channel) seems to work...at 3am I can just get to sleep within half an hour it seems now.
maybe not so good. I walk 10k each night as part of my tiger roamyness, I keep myself company and it seems very short, but it certainly helps me to think (blood pumping helps me process reality a bit better) and sleep soon after I come back.

Tiger.

Hrmm.. Thanks Tiger!
I suppose I'll just have to find a proper way to expel all of this energy..
This could be.. difficult. o.o;
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: kohl October 01, 2012, 04:58:16 -06:00
I recently read from a health magazine that eating rice with dinner will help you fall asleep.
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: tokar October 01, 2012, 08:01:12 -06:00
i suggested this awhile ago and challenge anyone to try it.  it works for me on most occasions.

believe it or not - try relaxing your tongue.  i mean relax it so that it is not pushing up on the roof of your mouth or against your teeth.  relaxing your tongue helps to relax the rest of you so you can get to sleep easier.  try it

it might take a few times tying but let me know if it works for you.
: Re: Help with going sleep?
: Carl Foxmarten October 02, 2012, 02:39:57 -06:00
Wow, interesting idea Tokar, I'll give that a go sometime.

There was an episode of "What's That About" a while ago that talked about sleep, suggesting several methods for helping you get to sleep.
Among the ideas presented was having a hot bath right before bed, relaxing all your muscles (by alternately tightening then relaxing them), eating protein before bed (starch does the opposite, making you more alert), dimming the ambient light levels towards bed (which includes not using computers, TVs or other light-emitting screens before bed), as well as sticking to a routine.

Some time I've really got to try some of these... =>.>=