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General Category => General Board => : Lime July 10, 2012, 09:34:47 -06:00

: Are you scared too?
: Lime July 10, 2012, 09:34:47 -06:00
Like the title says, are you scared too? They say a huge earthquake is going to hit Bc I'm really worried but are you?
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: Renwaldo July 10, 2012, 09:39:05 -06:00
Ever been hit by a ton of concrete before?
Me neither, but the nerve damage is so quick you don't feel it when you get squished.

Squished like a spider.

Under a dump-load of gravel.

SPLAT!!!

0_0
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: Temrin July 10, 2012, 09:42:20 -06:00
I've heard "we are going to get hit by a huge earthquake" for like 10+ years now. (well. longer then that.)

Is there some kind of new evidence now? (though. predicting earthquakes is kinda moot. sure you can be like "well there is a lot of activity in the area, maybe?" But theres really no predicting it up until the moments before it happens. And word wouldn't get out fast enough from the earthquake centers anyways.)

Theres a lot of fear mongering about this epic quake. Though for good reason. Many places in BC arent up to snuff as they should be. Many public places are but i do know a lot of homes arent nearly as sturdy as they should be. Information on what to do/where to hide/etc is always different from each person you talk to, too.
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: Carl Foxmarten July 10, 2012, 11:04:55 -06:00
Not scared, no. A little concerned, but that's my normal state of mind...
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: Drake Wingfire July 11, 2012, 09:19:06 -06:00
Great, now our government is gonna introduce an "earthquake tax" in the hopes that we can reduce our chance of an earthquake happening by having us all give them more money. You know kinda like how taxing gas got everyone to magically stop driving!  :roll:

But in all seriousness I remember being in grade 6 and getting all scared cause everyone was going earthquake crazy, people kept saying stuff like "man the big one is coming real soon!" It seems around here that every few years there is a revival of the earthquake panic.
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: Tony Greyfox July 11, 2012, 04:07:05 -06:00
Meh, I've been hearing that since a babysitter scared me by saying we'd all die from earthquakes and tidal waves ... in 1980. Still around!

Yeah, we're in a quake zone, but if it happens it happens. Be prepared just in case; I've got emergency kits in my house and car with food, emergency stoves, and such. (which reminds me, I need water in the car...) a little bit of prep is never a bad thing.
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: Zetta July 11, 2012, 04:11:45 -06:00
We don't have too much to worry about so long as you don't live in really tall buildings.
Earthquake proofing only works so far in construction before everything /but/ the supports start to crack.

That and unlike the earthquake in japan, we don't have too many nuclear power plants in BC, so the chance of something happening of that scale is unlikely.

That and the lower mainland has us islanders as a shield before they get hit by any large tidalwaves, so I don't see why anyone would be too worried.


Natural disasters are natural anyways, Can't do much about them and there isn't a single biome thats 100% safe on this planet.
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: Neox July 11, 2012, 09:30:52 -06:00
A group of scientists predicts that we are supposed to have a record-breaking earthquake any time within the next 100 years.

People shit bricks.

Nobody predicts the semi to lose its breaks before the intersection and T-bone your car.

And we go on living happily like it'll never happen.

If a disaster is going to happen, it's going to happen.  The only difference is that when someone TELLS you it's going to happen, we all start freaking out.  I don't know which form of terrorism is worse: the kind they face over in the Middle East with car-bombs and martyrs... or the psychological kind that puts you in a state of terror for the rest of your life, fearing that the worst will happen.

If there is going to be an earthquake, nobody is going to predict exactly WHEN it will happen, so fuck it.  Go on with your life.  Forget about it.  What are you going to do to prepare anyway?  Anything short of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars fortifying your house to be "earthquake proof" is just useless, so don't worry about it.  Worry about it WHEN it happens.

The BEST thing you could do is familiarize yourself with survival tactics, but those are invaluable skills to know for anything, not just earthquakes.  Know where to go to find clean drinking water (mountain springs, unpolluted streams), learn how to scavenge or hunt for food, learn to build a fire from scratch...  I can tell you that if a natural disaster ever occurred that would ruin the city I live in, I'd be heading straight for the mountains.
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: Fuzzum July 12, 2012, 10:25:47 -06:00
Ya i remember those days in school "EARTH QUAK TEST! EVERYONE UNDER THE DESK's" it was eather that or a tornado test not to shure.

but we stopped that almost right away like 3 days of that and it was gone. the desk were a "POS" anyway and the Beams above are head were huge and we were lined up under them so im shure the desk wouldnt have helped us at all if anything it would have made things worse. lol
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: Ryokx July 12, 2012, 07:19:08 -06:00
We live on the surface of a ball with molten magma flowing underneath us. We have a whole universe that has who-knows-what hurdling towards us. Actually NASA probably knows, but, really, nature will run its course, and there's nothing we can do. Except create fear, and the Regional Board District to make lives miserable. So there's nothing really to worry about!
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: Kirkus July 12, 2012, 09:49:49 -06:00
Yeah pretty much everyone in here has it the nail hammered on the head pretty well- I'll provide what I know from a couple biogeography classes to ease your mind a bit pal :3

Basically, an earthquake prediction is based on two things: the positioning of tectonic plates, and the current seismology of the small earthquakes that they're causing. Now for the latter, what's pretty cool about the internet is you can actually track the seismology of BC yourself on this site: http://www.earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php?tpl_region=west (http://www.earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php?tpl_region=west)- as you can see, the earthquakes are typically on the coast as they should be and are pretty small in nature.

So what's causing these earthquakes? Well there are two plates that are connected off the coast of Vancouver Island: the Juan de Fuca, and the North American. What makes these plates' connection peculiar is that they're one of the few places in the world where subduction, obduction and belting are occurring all at the same time- the three possible ways that plates can interact with each other. This is what's causing regions of relatively high tectonic activity and hence the occasional small earthquake you feel in Van. When a large interaction happens, such as a plate slipping under the other from immense pressure, you get a large earthquake like San Francisco's in 1906.

Now despite this sounding pretty awful and hazardous, keep in mind that there are 8 huge plates in the world doing interactions just like our two, including the infamous San Andreas fault line that separates LA and Vegas (which frankly, lies directly underneath many nuclear powerplants that aren't meeting their safety standards). It's also incredibly difficult to make a decent prediction as to when these plates will finally give; many geologists claim "within the next few thousand years", simply because that's how broad these interactions are and how grand of a scale a large slip really is. Now if you take this time scale and the large uncertainty of how powerful an earthquake may be and apply it to things that could directly happen to you, such as an automobile accident or diabetes or cancer, then it quickly becomes very unreasonable for you to be scared about a potential earthquake. It could happen tomorrow, or in the year 4000, and when it does it may not even be a large-scale disaster. So RELAX, there are far more important things to worry about, like when Schrodinger's Cat may have died ;3
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: spuug July 12, 2012, 11:23:58 -06:00
As Prof. Tom Lehrer sings:
"Don't be nervous, don't be flustered, don't be scared... Be Prepared!"
( Tom Lehrer- Be Prepared (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSwjuz_-yao#) )
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: H u nn Y July 13, 2012, 01:48:31 -06:00
: Renwaldo  July 10, 2012, 09:39:05 -06:00
Ever been hit by a ton of concrete before?
Me neither, but the nerve damage is so quick you don't feel it when you get squished.

Squished like a spider.

Under a dump-load of gravel.

SPLAT!!!

0_0

Depending on how it falls on you, you may still be able to feel pain. How do I know this? Torchwood. I can't remember specifically which episode, but Toshika, the asian lady on their team, in the episode they go back to way before she worked for Torchwood, and after the whole said flash back of how they discovered her, Toshika, stuck under a PILE of concrete, is in PAIN, struggling to free herself from the debris, as 3 of her co-mates try and lift up the concrete from her, and that being really heavy, just moving it makes it worse as it presses down on her more and more.... so yeah, you can still possibly feel pain from a ton of cement... also Renwaldo, not a good thing to mention to people when they have enough to worry about XD
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: Tito42 August 02, 2012, 09:29:06 -06:00
I heard the earthquake is supposed to hit sometime in the next 200 years so that doesn't scare me too much.  I'm more scared about what would happen if the value of the dollar dropped drastically and no one was paying the cops or public servants and power fails and highways fail and food supply to the cities fail and water lines fail and people start killing each other for basic necessities and everyone's inner sociopath comes out and buildings are burnt down with people inside and bodies litter the streets and anarchy reigns... part of me is kinda excited for that though too.  At least with an earthquake there will still be someone in charge and we may only get a little bit of looting.
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: Aeturnus August 03, 2012, 06:23:21 -06:00
I've been hearing about the 'big one' for at least twenty years, and people go as far as to say we're overdue for one. What's said is they don't consider the six point eight we had back in 2001 to be the big one. The thing I find the funniest: I didn't know earthquakes were on a schedule.

Although I'll admit I'm a little nervous, especially if we have an earthquake like the one that struck Japan a year ago. When that happens, you can pretty much kiss Downtown Seattle good-bye. We are nowhere near as prepared as Japan.
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: Wereman August 03, 2012, 07:56:14 -06:00
Scientists state they can predict earthquakes after they drilled probes and seismometers into the ground. Yet research and technology only goes a certain way. News about earthquake has been ongoing around locals in the Vancouver area, or so it seems. Was Tsunami coming our way, it's true that Vancouver Island and the Olympic Peninsula would shield the big centers on the Pacific (like Olympia, Tacoma, Bellingham and Vancouver, from the biggest damage).

It's foreseeable that a large city like Seattle would be totally unprepared to a disaster like this and most likely dispatched Search and Rescue from California would be stuck first even entering the city.
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: ravewoif August 03, 2012, 03:38:46 -06:00
    It is true that we are long overdue for a mega earthquake rivaling Chile's earthquake in 1960, but what do they mean by overdue and how soon is soon to scientists. Earthquakes are a vague phenomenon especially when it comes to predicting when they will happen. Try this put your hand on the wall and push against it really hard then try and slide your hand along the wall. It will move in jerks that you can't possible calculate the timing and duration of. It is pretty much the same thing with earthquakes. Ask a physicist and he will tell you that your hand will slip when you apply enough force and thats about all he can tell you. So when a seismologist tells you that it will happen soon because there is enough force building just waiting to slip he can be off by hundreds of years. This earthquake might not even happen in your grand children's generation. 

    Just to take your mind of the impending earthquake. Out in space random bursts of gamma radiation appear that we have no idea what is causing them which mean we have absolutely no way to predict them so one could appear close enough to earth that we wouldn't even know it was coming until it hit us as we can't see the burst until it hits us. Don't worry about the earthquake as there are literally hundreds of things that could kill you or destroy your life befor you finish reading this sentence.
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: Crassadon August 05, 2012, 11:27:34 -06:00
well, a large cement block falling on you would kill you effectively instantaneously, it's also possible that it would fall on you and, perhaps, sever your legs without crushing your head, thus causing you to bleed out in considerable pain. It's also possible that you could simply become trapped. Perhaps dying slowly of blood loss, or starving over several days, as has been inferred by the stories of people recouvered from building collapses.

I'm helping~  :D
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: Silvermink August 07, 2012, 02:41:56 -06:00
No, I'm pretty much inured to predictions of seismic doom and gloom at this point. There's nothing I can do about it, so I may as well just go on living my life as normal.
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: Trapa August 08, 2012, 12:30:19 -06:00
I think depending on the size of the quake, i'm not sure people should hope to survive it.  Richmond and New Westminster are the only two cities in the area that will have potable drinking water and that's only if the two truck-based filtration systems they bought are A) not crushed or damaged themselves, and B) still able to get to the water source.

People who only have cell phones will be a lot more screwed than those with land lines.
People who buy bottled water service or have a water cooler at home will be in a better situation.

It will be a interesting cluster fuck should it ever happen, and I know a few cities within the provincial emergency program who have basically realized that their entire command centers and city halls are not going to survive the earthquake, and since it would cost so much money to upgrade their plan for the city is "We'll just run the city out of tents"  .. which honestly may work and may be the only cost effective plan.
: prepare your plan
: Wereman August 08, 2012, 07:48:18 -06:00
Running the city out of tents may well be the solution, is it in the winter with snow fall (heck, it happened in January) may add to the challenge. This scenario reminds me of Aftershock (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186804/), may well happen in Vancouver (as a matter of a fact, if you look closely, several scenes where shot in Vancouver....).

I'm doubtful Richmond will be ready for it, for most part of the city was built on landfills and sandbanks. This may well become jello and partly sink into the Pacific.

We may well pass away of other causes, let's enjoy life and when the bad hits us, be prepared for it.
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: Ember August 21, 2012, 05:52:25 -06:00
Well...

I either die or I don't.

If I die then there's no reason to fear because it can't be predicted.

If I don't then I was raised in a camping family and know how to survive and live off the land if need be.

We also don't fucking live in a third world country and our buildings are designed to withstand earthquakes.

We also live in one of the most prosperous nations in the world and our government will take care of us.

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: Wereman August 21, 2012, 04:02:06 -06:00
: Ember  August 21, 2012, 05:52:25 -06:00
Well...

I either die or I don't.

If I die then there's no reason to fear because it can't be predicted.

If I don't then I was raised in a camping family and know how to survive and live off the land if need be.

We also don't fucking live in a third world country and our buildings are designed to withstand earthquakes.

We also live in one of the most prosperous nations in the world and our government will take care of us.



I am a little doubtful on the last part. It takes the government a few days to group itself and send in the necessary assistance. For at least the first 24 to 48 hours we will be on our own. Past and past again has shown how first responder can lack efficiency when acting after a disaster, Katrina hitting New Orleans in 2005, 2010 Haiti Earthquake and the Gulf of Mexico oil spill the same year to name a few examples. When launching search and rescue setting up logistics efficiently is always a challenge.
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: tokar August 21, 2012, 06:24:16 -06:00
what is the point of being scared of something you cannot control or have any knowledge of when it might happen.  like walking across the street - can you predict that a bus is not going to stop at a certain time and day and hit you as you cross?  can you predict if or when you will win the lottery? 
sure you can be a boy scout and be prepared and have an earthquake preparedness kit, but why be scared.  react to the problem when the problem is present.  when your home is a pile of rubble then and only then are you homeless after the earthquake.
if there is / was no earthquake then don't worry.  if an earthquake is happening do not panic, stand still (2 secs max) and focus as to where the damage is happening.  then get away from there. fast and protect your kit. and stay off of your phone.

YOU CANNOT RELY ON THE GOV'T TO HELP YOU FOR AT LEAST 72 - 96 HOURS AFTER A DISASTER.  in normal speak that would be up to 4 days so do not panic.
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: Fleurette August 22, 2012, 01:22:55 -06:00
Just have hope.
Of course I'm scared as well, but what can we do?
Perhaps it will happen while I'm not living in Vancouver, but what if it happens the day I move there? The week after? Years after?
Who knows. All you can be is hopeful that you're in the right place in the right time.
I don't imagine I could protect myself if the city were in anarchy for a few days before government officials came to break up the chaos.
I'm just hoping that if it happens in this lifetime, I will be in a safe place surrounded by people that love me.
Just, have, hope.
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: Sevrin August 22, 2012, 09:18:09 -06:00
I'm not really scared of earthquakes, no, I find the media usually makes a big hype about them but its never really as bad as they make it look.

: Fleurette  August 22, 2012, 01:22:55 -06:00
I don't imagine I could protect myself if the city were in anarchy for a few days before government officials came to break up the chaos.
doesn't one of the pictures on your profile depict you with a bigass sword?
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: J.R.Bear October 27, 2012, 11:30:54 -06:00
No, being scared of earthquakes is silly :P
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: Red October 28, 2012, 09:41:22 -06:00
The only thing you can do to help in the event of an earthquake is be prepared, it's not something we can stop completely, but it helps to have a kit.

http://www.pep.bc.ca/hazard_preparedness/prepare_now/prepare.html (http://www.pep.bc.ca/hazard_preparedness/prepare_now/prepare.html)

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: Tef October 28, 2012, 11:10:19 -06:00
A 7.7? Honestly, I didn't feel a thing even though I'm in Richmond - though I believe it couldn't be stated for folks on the Island. I checked my Facebook and some of my friends in Richmond said they had also felt the earthquake.
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: Drake Wingfire October 28, 2012, 01:17:21 -06:00
I felt absolutely nothing over here. The only warnings the island ever got were for like Tofino.. :P
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: Univaded_Fox October 28, 2012, 01:18:11 -06:00
Those of you who are in my cell phone contacts, if there is ever a major quake expect to recieve the following text from me, "I am alive.  Are you?"  If not...
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: zenia October 28, 2012, 08:54:41 -06:00
hehe One of my regular commission customers (who lives in California) emailed me all worried and asked if I was ok. I didn't even know there had been an earthquake or a tsunami warning. Being in Nanaimo, I am pretty safe from a tidal wave, unless it was giiiiiiinormous I think.
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: Wereman October 28, 2012, 10:31:46 -06:00
Actually, I recently reviewed footage from the 2011 Tsunami in Japan and the 2004 Christmas Tsunamin in the Indian Ocean. Along with The Impossible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Impossible_%282012_film%29) due this holiday season, it gives me something to think about.

You definitely can forget Tofino, yet sea level in Vancouver could rise a dozen meters max.