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Creators Board => Sewing => : Roffo September 18, 2011, 11:08:21 -06:00

: Fursuits Head
: Roffo September 18, 2011, 11:08:21 -06:00
Is it just me, or is trying to get a fursuit from well-known fursuit makers almost impossible?
My story; I began showing interest in sewing about 2 years ago. From there, I started to make little projects from fleece hats to
halloween costumes. About 10 months ago, I started to make my own fursuit which is a lavender husky. (You can check my profile pictures
to see what it looks like).
Anyways, because I live in a small town, resources for the fursuit were hard to find. I have to get a head made now but I don't have any time
to make it, nor do I really feel the need to make one myself. I want one made really well, done well, symmetrical and similar to my character. 
Its just, there are a lot of known fursuit makers who are closed on commisions (and who knows when they will be open again, months to years even).
I have been aiming for a professional grade suit; so I only want a professional grade head. (no boxy muzzles, uneven eyes, untrimmed fur, uneven ears).
Really, If I get a fursuit head, I want the head to have personality to it. I was thinking of follow-me eyes as well. FurHappens has closed commisions at the moment, MixedCandy too. I really wanted to get a head made by them :/
Does anyone know where I can get a head made with the same quality as those two makers? I want to know, that I can order a head and be
really impressed with it once it arrives in the mail. The amount of money it will cost doesn't matter to me; I have the cash and now I just want the head made properly.
Can't want to get a reply (and tell me how I did making my body suit :3)
: Re: Fursuits Head
: BabyCheetah September 19, 2011, 02:23:32 -06:00
Scribble Fox (local fur) is busy with suits and gettign married very soon from what I'm told. I think overall, you'll be waiting a few months before a fursuit maker can actually work on the head. Arend is ramping up again after a vacation recently. Still you may hvae to wait a bit.. theres lots of them that may be quicker then Arend Studios as well.. you just gotta keep asking them directly, don't go word of mouth from other people.. email them directly, and tell them you have the money for it up front - that may quicken the order in SOME cases.
: Re: Fursuits Head
: Roffo September 19, 2011, 11:56:54 -06:00
Yeah, I have the cash too -_-.

I started to look into b3mascots. Has anyone ordered a fursuit and/or head from them?
: Re: Fursuits Head
: Roffo September 22, 2011, 01:53:59 -06:00
*bump*

Its been a few days. I noticed how terrible some service can be from some fursuit makers. (so it happens it is from those that I have interest in >.>).

Apparently its hard enough to get a questions answered. Not to mention it seems that some of the fursuit makers don't care what is going on with their clients.
I feel like my questions get ignored; if I am lucky to get an email back, than nothing actually gets answered.
I understand most fursuit builders are busy, but when someone says they have 'Open' commission statues, than really, why have it if the service given will be poor.
I know how clients with fursuit makers that give fursuit makers a hard time; yes that understandable. Its just when I see a fursuit maker giving the client a hard time; well, what was the point for that couple hundred to a thousand dollars? Bad service can lead to a bad product.

Thats my rant :/ Looking for a maker is upsetting me.
: Re: Fursuits Head
: MurphyErasmus October 13, 2011, 02:02:35 -06:00
I would offer to help you out, but I'm nowhere NEAR mixedcandy's level. She is amazing.

I was going to suggest Clockwork Creature but  they're closed right now, too, until the end of 2011.

I agree, a LOT of builders are super brusque. It's really a shame, because artists who really connect with their clientelle seem to be more successful. I myself have only bought art from two people, and I'm pretty friendly with both of them (one being Brittany Shadowwolf, now one of my best friends).

And as for the people I build suits for - well, if I'm making something for someone, that takes a lot of communication and interaction, and it's so much easier when you know and like the person, right?

Some people need to learn the golden rule again. And do a lot more :hug:.
: Re: Fursuits Head
: mediar October 13, 2011, 08:40:55 -06:00
From what I hear, everyone is stupid busy right now. I suggest you make a list of suit makers that you like, and keep checking their status on FA or their websites. Don't go after the unknown makers, you might get ripped off and or a crap suit.
: Re: Fursuits Head
: Roffo October 13, 2011, 10:41:37 -06:00
: MurphyErasmus  October 13, 2011, 02:02:35 -06:00

And as for the people I build suits for - well, if I'm making something for someone, that takes a lot of communication and interaction, and it's so much easier when you know and like the person, right?

Some people need to learn the golden rule again. And do a lot more :hug:.
Yes! Thats exactly what I look for. From all the suit makers I talked to, communication has been horrible. The last thing a client wants to do is give, say, 2 thousands dollars for a suit and not be heard back from for months, years.
It really upsets me. It is like a gamble for me. I literally am 'this' close to making my own head for my current body suit that I have. I could probably pull it off too. I love making suits. It would probably take...many tries before I get it the way I want. I have the cash, I have the sewing machine. All I need is the foam and a bit know-how on making fursuit heads.

: mediar  October 13, 2011, 08:40:55 -06:00
From what I hear, everyone is stupid busy right now. I suggest you make a list of suit makers that you like, and keep checking their status on FA or their websites. Don't go after the unknown makers, you might get ripped off and or a crap suit.
Yeah, I hate how the majority of suit makers are 'always' opened for commissions, when really, they are at least a year and a half busy in waiting time. Its basically just saying "I don't have time for you know, but I will be glad to take your money". Yes, theres a lot of fursuit makers who never close their quotes and commissions, yet have very long waiting times.

I would love to get a mixedcandy suit. I would be waiting along time though :/
: Re: Fursuits Head
: Senti November 24, 2011, 08:38:12 -07:00
I'll start off and say that yeaaaaaah, I think you are asking too much.

When someone finally does open commissions, you send them everything you need too, an' for the love of god do NOT email them again because their inboxes will be filling up very fast and over half of the people sending info in are probably just being nosy anyway and/or sending multiples in an attempt to get answered quicker. So the builder won't be all happy and sugarcoating with everyone right of the bat. (And sometimes you -will- have to wait longer for a reply than what is posted! I had to wait almost a week past the "reply period" when I sent in to MixedCandy. It happens, they get very busy. :P)
If the prices are okay with you, and the maker does want to make your character (because sometimes no, they don't want too/or can't accept ALL the characters that are submitted.) and you are both on the same page and everything is set in motion- you start to talk to each other more and work on the process together.

Right off the bat, they will simply be professional and quick, and sometimes that can make other people feel that they are rude or that they don't care about the process. (you know because they don't go OMAH GAWD I LOVE YOUR CHARACTER <3 <3 -hearts and smileys- :D :D) But you have to get in with them and make everything official before they will really start working with you.
Ask other people about their experiences, don't base it off of an email or two that you receive in monotone.  (:


It's just personal preference to stay open all the time. Either way you are waiting, TBH. Some people like to put a limit on what they will complete in a certain time frame, others are simply open constantly and don't mind having a lineup.
If you really want a costume from MixedCandy, I'd think you should just be a little patient instead of settling for second best.



I apologize if you find this rude or anything, but this what I've personally experienced so I thought I'd share.
I mean if anything hopefully it helps you understand the process a bit better and relaxes you a bit. :P
: Re: Fursuits Head
: Roffo December 04, 2011, 12:22:26 -07:00
I understand what you mean Senti.

I however do believe that if a fursuit maker wishes to run a business selling fursuits, then the fursuit maker should give as much information to the customer to make sure that the customers knows what he/she should expect. A customer shouldn't have to spend 2200$ on a fursuit, only to find out that they don't like the suit because there wasn't good communication between the suit maker and the customer.

I do believe that a customer shouldn't spam a fursuit makers email inbox with messages, however most reasons why a customer will do that is because they have questions and concerns that the fursuit maker should acknowledge. The customer is spending a lot of money to get something that is truely personal for them - a fursuit.

I just hate seeing fursuit makers disregard the fact that their job requires them to respond to emails. Like they say, the customer is always right.
If a fursuit maker is annoyed at talking to customer who have questions, then that fursuit maker shouldn't be in the fursuit business. Communication is key. If I were a fursuit maker, I wouldn't want my reputation as one to be diminished due to making my customers uncomfortable with the emails I send them. Instead, I would take the extra 30 minutes to make sure my customers are comfortable and secure with the investment they are making. That way I know what to make for my customers, so they are happy and so I am happy.

I also hope I don't sound rude in my email aswell :P Its my opinion on the subject. :3
: Re: Fursuits Head
: Temrin December 04, 2011, 02:07:07 -07:00
I'd like to point out, that the "customer is always right" is not exactly true. A lot of the time (this is both from my own experience selling artwork, and accounts from the artist beware communities about artists, suit builders and commissioners alike) a good chunk of their problems come from clients not reading their Terms of Service and not asking questions about it prior to ordering from them. Another reason artists might be -cold- in their attitude, is the client thinking the artist is their BFF once they've commissioned them. A lot of the drama people stir up is because their pride is hurt after an artist tells them they aren't friends. A lot of people, when you try to be nice about telling them this, they dont -get it-. And you have to resort to being blunt :/ After a long time of dealing with the lost puppies of the commission world, people stop being overly friendly because they don't want to have to put anyone down or block more people because they wont stop harassing them about "U R MY BFF NAOW. FREE ARTZ. TALK TO MEH!" BS. XD

This of course is not to say thats all people. some artists ARE just NOT sociable what so ever and make themselves out to be asses. I've worked with a few artists like this and i will never suggest their art for commissions, nor will i commission them again. I myself, hold to my values closely when i run my business. You can't make everyone happy, but i do my darn hardest to do so. I know a lot of other artists that are like this and i know some really good suit builders who are very kind to work with :3

Just be patient! Eventually you'll find someone open! Fursuits are huge projects and when working with a client they can take a lot longer because you have to make sure your getting things right. Just because a builders has a good reputation though, doesn't mean that you are going to get the head you wanted. Before buying from any suit builder, check the online artist beware community journals so you know what to look out for and be prepared. ( http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/ (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/) ) There are even some local suit builders who (imo) have better quality and character in their suits then some of the big names. The ones starting out seem to put more love and care into their work then the ones who get popular (and those who start doing carbon copy heads. they all look similar other then the markings... ) that doesn't apply to everyone though! Just trying to give you my 2cents is all~

I wish you luck finding the head you are looking for. There are new and really unique suit builders popping up all the time. So don't stop looking around, because you never know what opportunities you might miss :3 Good luck! :D