Hey I'm a paranormal nut case and I just thought.. I can't be the only one !
I personally am into all of it.. vampires, werewolves, ghosts, tarot reading (which I do),orbs, rods,dowsing, wicca, pagan,crystals, magic of all types, etc
I would love to make some fur friends into all this type of stuff.
Hmm I can't say I'm into most of that stuff However, I would like to ask if you know of any haunted locations and if so, could you take me? I've always wanted to explore haunted locations no matter how haunting they are.
ever been to woodland asylum before it Burned down? that place has baaaad vibes....
also there is a Rather creepy park (not to Far from where you live Kaji). Next time we hang out I can take you there.
: Hadlock April 09, 2009, 08:35:15 -06:00
also there is a Rather creepy park (not to Far from where you live Kaji). Next time we hang out I can take you there.
Sweet, I look forward to that =3
My first BF was into that and still is so I have a lot of experience with it i am definitely a believer in we don't know more than we know and those who close their minds can't be good. In any case it's interesting to dream and write about.
I am a Believer in most of those things, and i have had an... interesting experience once before...
I've lived in too many haunted houses LOL
mom used to ask me if some "things" where just following me.
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never been to woodland asylum
I use to practice Wicca quiet a bit in my teenage years. In part I still am a bit wiccan. I love the paranormal, and think Vampires and Werewolves are so goddamn hot. *Drool* Mn... I use to have a deck of Tarot cards, but I abused them, and things started to turn sour so ... they are hiding somewhere... >< Don't mess with Tarot cards!!! Or Ouija boards those things are serious shit... Bad experience with one of those. Will NEVER touch one again.
i've had a lot of experiance with spiritual people and their mediums.. i myself use the taro and have dabbled with runes, it's hard not to believe when you open your mind a little. i was told when my mom caught me with my first tarot deck that my grandma and her mother always used to talk with spirits in the house and my mom never knew what was happening, since then i asked my grandmother and she wouldn't say a thing.. other then it's been passed down our family T_T i've sinced stopped using the taro when i told my mom one afternoon that her marriage would end in physical violance and the path after would be long and difficult to come back from.. the next week my step dad beat her and me and they divorced in the later year after seperating.. three long years of "getting over it" and the last year now is finally normal... lol just my luck right? i only carry a pendulum with me now... and crystals ^_^;; so yes... maybe a get together sometime would be nice, i love haunted places and i've some of my favourite moments lurking in them
WOW I'm sooo happy to hear that I'm not the only one !! I was wiccan for soo many years, turned to Christ... I know scary and now I'm seriously fallen back into my pagan roots. I know far too well that the spirit boards are NOT a toy... learned the hard way... this type of stuff runs in my family on both side a lot. My mother is highly physic. But she is too scared to really adapt and use her gifts. I think it would kick ass if we got together for a day or something !!! share stories and do reads for eachother !!! ~giggles with happiness~
Im not personally a believer but I would like to discuss this stuff with some of you.
I'd like to learn more about it and also find out what leads you guys to believe in this stuff.
Well, i can honestly say what lead me into it was an old friend in our younger years, and like i said before, some interesting experiences.
same here actually. I was like, 14 when my friend introduced me to it in high school
ok Im honestly not just trying to bash or flame or anything but this paranormal stuff does confuse me, I just honestly don't understand it.
my question was more along the lines of
a) what is it that makes you think ghosts exist at all?
b)weren't the true Wiccan practices lost a long time ago and pretty much all modern practices just made up?
c)why do ghosts hang around here at all?
d)have you ever contacted a ghost that's died more than 300 years ago? when people didnt speak english here at all?
e)shouldn't the world be overcrowded with ghosts with the billions upon billions that have died over the (at least) millions of years we've been around?
it just doesn't seem real to me, I'd really like to know more
are you sure you want to know more or are you someone who just like to debate ?
I've also had a few.... abnormal experiances. (love werewolves too) but I'm not sure about anything really, would love to learn though
Well, i dont know im no Guru, but if you ask me i would have to say its the troubled or willing "Souls" of people that stick around for whatever motive, i personally believe they exist because i could swear i have seen one. and it was not a human, it was my old dog T_T
I have a strong intrest in Paranormal. mainly ghosts, UFO phenomenon, wicca, pegan, but I'm not a very strong believer in psyicic yet.
I believe in the abilities, i just don't believe in most the people who lay claims to having them.
I'd love to get together with you some time and discuss the paranormal. I believe I now understand what ghosts really are,
I also know of a web site and live cam you'll love.
: hammy April 11, 2009, 09:12:30 -06:00
ok Im honestly not just trying to bash or flame or anything but this paranormal stuff does confuse me, I just honestly don't understand it.
my question was more along the lines of
a) what is it that makes you think ghosts exist at all?
b)weren't the true Wiccan practices lost a long time ago and pretty much all modern practices just made up?
c)why do ghosts hang around here at all?
d)have you ever contacted a ghost that's died more than 300 years ago? when people didnt speak english here at all?
e)shouldn't the world be overcrowded with ghosts with the billions upon billions that have died over the (at least) millions of years we've been around?
it just doesn't seem real to me, I'd really like to know more
Just to let you know before hand, I say my friend get's "possessed", but he is merely a very open person to the spirits around him, and allows them to take control of his body to speak to us
a) belief, and belief alone. it's the same as asking someone why they think Christ existed, or any god or goddess exists. -Though for me, it was a few weeks ago, when my buddy got himself posessed by the spirit of an 8 year old girl...
b) dunno, I am not wiccian, and don't practice it. I have my own beliefs based on what I have experienced
c) Most ghosts/HUMAN spirits/lost HUMAN souls remain here because they have trouble passing over. Take the little girl from a few weeks ago, she was brutally raped and murdered before her time, and she couldn't move on, she had to be showed the way to the other side.
d) Never contacted a human spirit more than 50 years old. I have however been in contact with a demon(note: these are not actual demons from mythology, etc, this is merely what we call them for a lack of a better term.) through my friend who was several centuries old. he(it?) was able to speak to us using our tongue, as my friend is able to speak in our tongue...it was also able to swear at us in demon speak.
e) over crowded? no. most souls move on, just ones who suffered violent deaths, or have remaining purposes on earth remain. 99% move on to..whatever happens after you die
But then again, I might just be crazy, and be within a shared psychosis with my friends.
That answer your questions?
I feel ghosts exist because I've been seeing them/communicating with them since I was a little girl. And they are never just human ghosts. I see animal ghosts all the time
Wicca developed out of paganism and it has been said to be a very old practice and some have said it to be a very young practice. Depends on who you speak to or what you've read.
Ghosts/spirits remain here for many reasons. that was already touched on by the last post.
I have contacted many spirits that have been extremely old. And yeah I couldn't understand them all. I've had spirits possess me and speak through me and yes.. it was not English that I spoke. How do I explain it ? I don't I can't. Some things just can't be explained.
there are also many places that are over populated with spirits. That's why some places are more "haunted" then others.
They come in many forms and are not always human.
I regularly channel and a lot of the time I have a hard time listening to all those spirits talking at once.
call me crazy all ya want... lol I know I'm crazy.
Well... I am not sure if this counts as an experience or just craziness but I always thought it was. I once had a dream that was very strange and still can not get it out of my head. I have often wondered if it was more than a dream.
I was in the wild in the middle of winter roaming near a stream. A woman in white? fur walked by and went up a hill I followed her and she paused to ask me why. I told her that her aura was pretty because I did not want to mention her coat (I thought it would be rude)She replied with "That was very unspecific of you. Your aura is Green with a little bit of Black." Then she left and I continued down the stream. My brother was there at the side but I avoided him by stepping on the reeds in the ice cold water. A little bit farther along at the edge of the stream I found a naked man underneath a sheet on the ice and reeds. I walked past him to find another and another. The third one stopped me and exposed himself. Apparently I am so gay (even in my dreams) that I could not resist the random naked man (who I should mention was very mature and attractive looking). Then I also did the same for his friend the second man. At that point it devolved into something of orgy before the director (who I think was Chris, the boy who dated me and my first boyfriend Hans) called the Pornography shoot to a close. I "knew" I had replaced a porn star who had not made an appearance and that no one knew where I had come from. Then suddenly I was dressed in this weird long grey coat that reminded me of something a hobo would wear to fend of hypothermia. I was in a crowd with my friends eating some finger food and had just finished watching a movie (which I think was the aforementioned porno) I remember clearly my friend Stevie being beside me but everyone else was too blurry or far away. There was also a series of very pretty posters underneath the various television screens that I looked at as I walked by. That was when I woke up.
Wow that was a lot bigger than I thought it was >.> So yeah that was kind of something that got me more interested in finding out about aura's etc. Anyone here know what it means?
I've had multiple encounters. Things like the ghost in my old highschool that was tied to a suicide. Every now and then we would hear the sound of someone falling from the rafters and hitting the stage in the theatre. A kid committed suicide in there and a journalist fell from there too. In my college dorm building, we had two constant ghosts. One male, one female. The girl ghost always looked like she was scared. First time I saw her, she was looking in at me and some other guys from the second story window with a hand over her mouth. Another ghost would keep trying to get into my neighbor's room by trying to force open the door. Heck, once that girl ghost just started to make me tired of ghosts. She was outside my window just waving an arm at me. At this point is was no longer scared of ghosts, just starting to get annoyed. Also apparently a lot of ghosts pass through my house. They don't haunt it, more like they're just passing through. Funny story actually here because one time I was laying in bed just falling asleep and I heard two voices in my room. I swear to you there were two ghosts having a conversation in my room with eachother. I swear they were saying "Hey Tom, I haven't seen you in a long time. How've you been?" My first reaction wasn't "Oh god no, not ghosts. I hope they don't possess anyone or haunt this house" or anything like that. I actually just shouted "Would you two shut up, I'm trying to sleep!" And they left. A couple months ago one really really annoying ghosts woke me up every night for a week. Every night at 4 am I would hear the sounds of one of my old tiger electronics handheld game under my bed. I had a TMNT one, anyways, the ghost would turn it on and die on the first level but keep playing for about half an hour. Not only was the ghost annoying, but it sucked at the game. Eventually I just got really mad and grabbed my scythe out of my closet and started screaming and threatening the ghost. It never came back again. Ghosts don't scare me anymore. They just annoy me or royally piss me off. So sick of those things now.
I have seen spirits for so long that I as well just get bored with it half the time. Lately it's been mostly animal spirits. Which I don't mind.
It's auras that irritates me. some people are so bright that it hurts my eyes. Some people's energies are so over whelming that I will get a headache.
I believe I've had my own sort of paranormal experiences myself...
I have strange dreams, as it is. Quite often I will dream of something, and then I'll Deja Vu while I'm living my life. It's nothing spectacular, just something I knew was going to happen, and usually has little or no significance in my life. It has yet to prove to be anywhere useful, because of what was predicted. Wow, I moved a paint can, and got a comment for it. I'm sure if I keep mentioning that I've been there before it's going to start sounding like an attention thing. :P
However, the dreams would get weird. I'd have the same dream, multiple times... but I'd always be a different person in the dream, and I'd automatically do what I did as the other characters, in the previous versions of the dream, and not even think about it. It is my own thoughts, and my own decisions, and it's as if I knew what I would be thinking that day. This also has yet to prove anywhere useful...
And lastly, people who were friends, very close, and in distress, I would be able to feel their emotions, no matter the distance... I called someone up one day, to ask if they were ok, and they in fact just found out that a close relative had died, and they were freaked that I seemed to know they weren't ok, as they hadn't told anyone yet... and I was in another country too.
It's a skill that could be excersized, but I don't have the mindspace for it anymore, I've been trying to get my life to be stable, so that my mind can be stable too. That's going to take some time.
I somewhat believe. Same thing with the inexplicably odd things happening. I really dont know if this qualifies as paranormal or something else but i seem to be sensitive to certain things. I can remember when i was living at home my mom's old cat was on her way out and the week leading up to her death I had the worst nightmares ever. Really disturbing and vivid. And they stopped almost immediatly after her death. However I'm not sure if it was her causing this or the fact that my room had recently been renovated( I've heard that can stir things up).
On a side note i recently had a very strange dream that seemed like it could have a meaning....In it i saw a stunningly gorgeous lady who was obiously blind ( milky eyes) and a dog. At first everything was okay but all of a sudden the dog started to get agitated and she was scared of it. Then it attacked her and all i remember was her falling into a pool of black water.
With the boards, I have used one once and thankfully it wasnt a bad experience but, i would never use one again as I've been told it's like leaving your front door open (but for spirits).
eep please heed my words.. DO NOT PLAY WITH SPIRIT BOARDS.... seriously.. they are dangerous. people laugh at me a lot when I say this... but I don't care. those boards are trouble especially when used without someone who knows what they are doing and how to CLOSE the damn thing. I was Wiccan most of my life and my elder was so pissed at me when she found out I had one.. she had to cleanse my home. Spirits were attacking my mother on and nightly basis.
So from someone who has experience...
DO NOT USE.
: velvetkytten April 30, 2009, 01:33:53 -06:00
eep please heed my words.. DO NOT PLAY WITH SPIRIT BOARDS.... seriously.. they are dangerous. people laugh at me a lot when I say this... but I don't care. those boards are trouble especially when used without someone who knows what they are doing and how to CLOSE the damn thing. I was Wiccan most of my life and my elder was so pissed at me when she found out I had one.. she had to cleanse my home. Spirits were attacking my mother on and nightly basis.
So from someone who has experience...
DO NOT USE.
Eek! I'm not about to laugh I've heard the about them. I was freaked out afterwards however I had only heard the dangers a few years after the fact. For the record I wouldn't even go near one these days. I should have specified...for as much as I wish to take things lightly and question somethings (there's a lot of hoaxes out there), i would never ever take spirit boards lightly.
: Kaji April 09, 2009, 08:52:14 -06:00
: Hadlock April 09, 2009, 08:35:15 -06:00
also there is a Rather creepy park (not to Far from where you live Kaji). Next time we hang out I can take you there.
Sweet, I look forward to that =3
Can I come too?
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: Sheenah April 30, 2009, 02:22:56 -06:00
: velvetkytten April 30, 2009, 01:33:53 -06:00
eep please heed my words.. DO NOT PLAY WITH SPIRIT BOARDS.... seriously.. they are dangerous. people laugh at me a lot when I say this... but I don't care. those boards are trouble especially when used without someone who knows what they are doing and how to CLOSE the damn thing. I was Wiccan most of my life and my elder was so pissed at me when she found out I had one.. she had to cleanse my home. Spirits were attacking my mother on and nightly basis.
So from someone who has experience...
DO NOT USE.
Eek! I'm not about to laugh I've heard the about them. I was freaked out afterwards however I had only heard the dangers a few years after the fact. For the record I wouldn't even go near one these days. I should have specified...for as much as I wish to take things lightly and question somethings (there's a lot of hoaxes out there), i would never ever take spirit boards lightly.
That's a good thing to hear and Velvet is right. I haven't touched one , but my mom and her siblings have and lets just say that the house they used to live in got to violent to stay in. My granddad did what he thought was right by chopping it up and trying to burn it... It was back on the kitchen table come morning the next day intact. So he nailed the board into one of the stairs leading to the downstairs area... The vaccum that sat on that spot moved on it's own when my uncle and mom were running down the stairs, tripping my mom and making her fly the rest of the way to the basement.
scary stuff... the place since has been sold and resold... they are now remodeling it, but things have been haulted on that as well. If anyone is interested in walking past the place let me know and I'll take you it's not far frome where I live.
hmm, how can boards be dangerous?
isnt the idea behind it that it gives an easier way for the spirits to communicate rather than an actual door? I mean, it's just a piece of wood with letters and numbers written on it.
it opens doors into realms and if you don't know how to close that door... spirits can come out. Any type of spirit...So if you don't close it and a angry one comes out... now you have that spirit lose... and your responsible for what happens. I didn't know how to close said door and for over a month something was attacking my mother.
yeah, what Im asking is is that you guys can channel spirits anyway, so isnt the board just actually a way for the spirits to write out what they're tying to say (if they do know how to write, Im sure some of them have horrible spelling) and not an actual door?
the board is just a plank with paint on it, how is that different from a billboard on the highway?
Please don't consider me an expert or anything but my understanding is that our universe is made with inherent patterns and symbols. The board has become one of those and thus has power. You could use just about anything if you knew how to go about it but for those who don't the board is like... like making a burger yourself or going to Mcdonalds. You never know what you are going to get unless you do it yourself.
I've studied and practied witchcraft and Shamanism for close to 15 yrs now, I have had the honor to learn from Ojibway and Ojicree Medince men and woman over that time. As well as studied with a coven in Ontairo for around the same period of time. Definatly a believer in the paranormal and had my fair share of experiences with it. But, Always question and be skeptical sometimes the simplist answer is the correct one, and its usually a reasonable one.
I have many users of the board tell me horror stories about boards returning after burning/throwing away and reapearing.
It's because you have to cleanse the damn thing and break it in half. I had my elder help me dispose of mine and it never returned.
She had me smug with sage, break the board and submerge the broken halves in saltwater.
She also had to cleanse the whole house.
It was not fun.
I never expect anyone to ever believe in anything I tell them that I have experienced. Just know I have and respect me enough to know how hard it was for me to deal with.
you don't have to believe. Just be respectful :)
Before I put out my following statements, I'd like to leave the foreword that I am a licensed and practicing Pranic Healer. For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, Pranic Healing is a scientifically proven method of medicine through the channeling of energies from one subject (the Healer) into another (the Patient) to encourage the natural regrowth of cells to create healing.
With this, I also have a long history along side the Lakota Sioux, as I spent many a night with a brilliant man by the name of Dan Yellowhawk, a truly blessed Shaman, as his bodyguard and aide in the rituals that followed.
The answers I will give to any questions asked will be given from as logical of a standpoint as possible. Keep in mind that much of the spiritual world
is dependent on belief, which makes things even harder to explain. For this reason, I ask that anyone who reads my following statements does
not take anything in an offensive manner.
I will be floating around this thread for the next few weeks, and respond to as much information as possible.
: hammy May 03, 2009, 10:32:37 -06:00
yeah, what Im asking is is that you guys can channel spirits anyway, so isnt the board just actually a way for the spirits to write out what they're tying to say (if they do know how to write, Im sure some of them have horrible spelling) and not an actual door?
the board is just a plank with paint on it, how is that different from a billboard on the highway?
The concept of the "spirit board" (which is merely a politically correct term for the Ouija Board, which was established after the release of the film "The Exorcist") is to create communication through the Medium. Through this, you are indeed correct. However, whenever you create a spiritual bond (be it with the living or the dead), you open yourself to a genuine and intense connection with this person. You feel their sadness, grief, anger, etc.;
This connection is often broken by ending the conversation, with the exception of rather intense bonds. These bonds are felt with people we love dearly, and often lead to "hunches" that let us know that someone we care about is sad or in pain.
These bonds are through the heart chakra, and energy transference will continue between the two subjects until the bond is broken. In most cases, this can be ignored. However, when one of the two is healthy (alive) and the other is ill (or dead), it will cause a constant drain of energy upon the healthy individual. In the case of someone merely being ill, it will last until the illness is gone, and the once-healthy individual will feel the symptoms of illness as well until it has cleared, or the connection has been cut. In the case of the deceased, it works a little differently.
This next bit of information is a bit of a long shot, so you'll just have to go with me on this one:
Our spirits are what creates our energetic fields, auras, etc.; and are what permits our spirits to remain on this earth after death in specific occasions.
(As we do not really know what happens after death, I'll kick the religious aspect of it all out the window and remain on the subject of what is known instead.)
Upon death, the energy of the spirit is generally discharged or dampened. Mediums, however, connect themselves through their heart chakra to these spirits and empower them with their own energies, bringing them to a living strength by sacrificing their own spiritual energy. Much like with the ill person, the spirit will feed off of this energetic bond until it is healthy again (or, more realistically, until it manifests). For most Mediums who are unaware of how this bond actually works, the burning of the Ouija Board/Spirit Board functions as a symbolism strong enough to sever that bond. For Pranic Healers, there is another symbol. For the Lakota, there is another. It's all an effective symbolism to create a disconnection from the spirit to prevent any further drain.
This focus of energy, combined with the power of belief, can create sufficient energy for the spirit to manifest, and to create a "haunting". This haunting generally follows the person involved in the communication, as the spirit is still linked to this individual. In cases where the spirit has not manifested, but continues to drain energy from the individual, they continue to
feel the presence of this spirit, and feel it's sadness, pain, etc., due to their bond. This creates the feeling of an intense haunting, and paranoia.
The difference between the Ouija Board/Spirit Board and any old plank is simply belief. People pour their faith and energy into this particular board, and
make it something more, whether or not they realize that that is how it works. :)
I hope I was able to answer your questions as accurately as possible.
It is so good to see someone else who has such a large amount of knowledge on this topic ! Especially someone who can word things in a better way then I ever could !!!
: velvetkytten May 27, 2009, 02:58:57 -06:00
It is so good to see someone else who has such a large amount of knowledge on this topic ! Especially someone who can word things in a better way then I ever could !!!
I do what I can, dear. :)
And thank you very much for the compliment.
Something wierd I've noticed over time. I don't know why but I can actually kinda feel when something is "off" when driving around, like there is a lot of energy about it. Not only that, but apparantly I am a walking deadzone now for spiritual activity. Apparantly after all my outbursts and litterally trying to fight them off and scare them away, there is little to no spiritual energy when I am in the room. I guess ghosts and poltergeists don't like me anymore, go figure. Oh and out of curiosity for people who know more on this than I do, is the "dream world" sensitive to the supernatural? Because I keep having dreams where I am either capturing ghosts in some way like cage them and locking away or forcing them into some pitch darkness to leave me alone. Maybe that's why they're avoiding me?
I know this isn't exactly what you're asking, but just in the interest of demographics and intrigue... I debunk the paranormal as a hobby. I'm pretty good at it too. I believe in nothing spiritual, religious or supernatural, and I'm very good at coming up with prosaic explanations for "paranormal phenomena" or sometimes even all-out proving the non-supernatural nature of an event.
I love paranormal stuff!
I enjoy reading up on demonology and watching paranormal shows i even participated in a Ouija board session.
I just find it interesting and entertaining when you got nothing better to do plus it also makes you feel less lonely
Oh, I try to debunk things all the time. I don't expect anyone to believe me when I claim I have seen something, but I kinda have to believe what I see infront of me.
I love faith and spirituality, such beautiful things. The universe is so much stranger than what can be proven.
I'm very much into the paranormal.
Not into the traditional stuff like spiritualism, I'm interested in the mythical correlation with the paranormal and reality.
Such as the continued link with the supernatural and cryptozoology. Really into Cryptozoology and other supernatural creatures. Stuff like the lochness, Yeti, Mothman aleins, etc.
Unlike a lot of people here, my experience is pretty much second-hand from research and articles on the topic.
Taking a look at the thread, the kind of paranormal apparently mentioned here is closer to the spiritual aspect, so I may be out of place.
Although, if I had a personal experience to share, it'd have ot be that I lived in a 'haunted' house for two years.
We had incidences of unseen voices, whispers, and other occurrences.
Like a bed that gave you nightmares every time you sleep in it.
Voices in the kitchen, calling your name even if you're alone
the traditional unexplained cold spots and chills
a ghostly hand sliding up the stair banisters and an unseen presence.
and apparently instances where I wake up crying at night, pointing at a light that isn't there. Yet strangely I have no memory of these events.
Best part was after moving out, we discover there was a suicide that happened in the place a few years (or was it months) before we moved in
Oh god i love this kinda stuff! Me and a few friends went to Woodlands Asylum before it burned down. We explored every floor and room, including the basement (Which is TOTALLY fucked up o.o) and the attic! 8D
We were thinking of going to the other abandoned asylum in Langley. Never got around to it.
And I know what you mean with the spirit boards. My friends wanted to use one in Woodlands and I freaked out and yelled at them to never use one. xD
There is an asylum in Langley? never heard of it. Is as messed up as Woodlands? how long has it been abandoned for?
let me know if/when your going, id love to come with. we can do EVP sessions
I think something awesome needs to be done here. And as far as I know, it's rare for me to meet someone as spiritual as I am. Hmmmz I wonder how many furs would be able to have a deep conversation with me about paranormal, magic, whatever shiz...
But I've ad quite a few experiences with the paranormal in my lifetime. Had many astral dreams as a child. And did weird things before I went to bed just so I could have something interesting to do while I was astral dreaming. An example would be tying up a rope from my bed (I slept on the top part of a bunk bed) to my shelf across the room when I was 6 and then walking across it during my astral travels.
I'm full wiccan. Been that way all my life, and always will be. I can see/do things others don't/can't, which is why I don't disclose things to people. It's bad enough that you get tagged as a witch even though wiccan magick extends itself in many ways. I'm not a witch, but I certainly know my way around the sandbox with my eyes closed. :D
I have been all my life as well. started "practicing" wicca at 13. I think it would be fun to have a gathering maybe at my place where we talk about all the paranormal stuff we love and share out experiences ! I love hosting but a lot of people have allergies to my cat.
Hm...
...This is, certainly, a topic I'd love to discuss with someone. There isn't much clear information about Wicca that I have been able to find, whether it's been on the internet or finding good books, as it were. I'm need of a guide, as it were.
Though, I do know some. BUT... Yeah, I won't ramble. Certainly something to talk about :P
It's nice to see that there's many Wiccans on here. I been practicing since I was 14. So about 6 years now. Wow does time ever fly!
: RoadKill July 18, 2010, 03:36:57 -06:00
A) Ghosts have been scientifically proven years ago...
If you want to believe in ghosts, that's fine, but if you go around saying they've been scientifically proven, you'd better be able to back that up.
Edit: I'm speaking as a regular user, not as a moderator.
: RainRat July 18, 2010, 03:53:22 -06:00
: RoadKill July 18, 2010, 03:36:57 -06:00
A) Ghosts have been scientifically proven years ago...
If you want to believe in ghosts, that's fine, but if you go around saying they've been scientifically proven, you'd better be able to back that up.
Edit: I'm speaking as a regular user, not as a moderator.
I fully agree.. I don't see ANY proof of ghosts anywhere (Or at least any SCIENTIFIC proof)
: RoadKill July 18, 2010, 10:50:32 -06:00
http://www.malaysian-ghost-research.org/scientific-evidence/proof-of-life-after-death.html (http://www.malaysian-ghost-research.org/scientific-evidence/proof-of-life-after-death.html)
U want any more you can do the homework yourself :P
The stories of some trapped miners suffering from oxygen deprivation isn't the same thing as scientific proof.
: Daryll July 17, 2010, 06:45:33 -06:00
Hm...
...This is, certainly, a topic I'd love to discuss with someone. There isn't much clear information about Wicca that I have been able to find, whether it's been on the internet or finding good books, as it were. I'm need of a guide, as it were.
Though, I do know some. BUT... Yeah, I won't ramble. Certainly something to talk about :P
Where I am, I'm a high priestess. There are a lot of places to find out about the wiccan ways of life, but the best way is to talk to someone who already is one and is open to share. Some wiccans don't like to extend themselves in that matter, but there are many who do that would be more than happy to help you understand.
: RoadKill July 19, 2010, 12:48:30 -06:00
Yea I kinda figured you'd say something like that, I could've posted anything and you narrow minded (oops sry Skeptical) ppl would still say the same thing :P I mean no disrespect due to your disability, and all, I just see no point in humoring your kind. Considering that link had more than just some minors stuck in a mine LOL No worries I do forgive you, it is not your fault. You are still young after all. Lmao Do not get me wrong, even a chunk of open minded ppl, suffer the same disability as you. Hence why I am denounced from all religions, including wiccan, all because they are written by man, I have no faith in mankind. I know what I know, and if your lucky I'll share, but I highly doubt it, for I do not socialize with your kind. On that note, I am off to hang with my ferret, for even she has more intelligence than your kind :P
You have yourself a really good day/night, yes I know your probably cursing my name as you read this, and I am ok with that.. It is your right after all. :birdy:
P.S. I Love that birdy icon, Its sweet! Ok cheerios I had fun.
You should know it is very disrespecting to call someone disabled because they do not believe in a idea that you do.
What exactly is "My kind" anyway? do you refer to skeptical thinkers? I'm fairly sure that those are the most open minded of all. I'm willing to accept the idea of ghosts if there was scientific proof for it, however, there isn't any so I don't. You on the other hand have your mind set that there is, regardless of much scientific back up that they (likely) don't, much the opposite of open minded.
If I must, here is a quick link on the side of Science: http://www.humantruth.info/souls.html (http://www.humantruth.info/souls.html)
: RoadKill July 19, 2010, 12:48:30 -06:00
On that note, I am off to hang with my ferret, for even she has more intelligence than your kind :P
Wow, when simply disagreed with you resort to insults and defensive posturing. If that is a trait of you spiritually attuned folks, then you may keep your attitude and "Dead-people Vision" to yourself.
There is no verifiable, measurable and duplicatable proof of any kind of spirits or ghosts. You and others may have their own personal beliefs or experiences, but that signifies nothing. Basing a belief upon something as unreliable and susceptible to neurosis and distortion as the human mind is madness in my view.
: Charmy July 19, 2010, 10:37:50 -06:00
: RoadKill July 19, 2010, 12:48:30 -06:00
On that note, I am off to hang with my ferret, for even she has more intelligence than your kind :P
Wow, when simply disagreed with you resort to insults and defensive posturing. If that is a trait of you spiritually attuned folks, then you may keep your attitude and "Dead-people Vision" to yourself.
There is no verifiable, measurable and duplicatable proof of any kind of spirits or ghosts. You and others may have their own personal beliefs or experiences, but that signifies nothing. Basing a belief upon something as unreliable and susceptible to neurosis and distortion as the human mind is madness in my view.
As a scientifically-minded person, until I am able to review IQ tests from both Road Kill's ferret and Rain Rat, I must reserve judgment as to the truth or falseness of the propostional statement, "Even she has more intelligence than your kind."
In all seriousness, has there ever been a thread on the Net about the paranormal that didn't end in this kind of bickering?
This is speaking as a moderator:
"Idea X is stupid" - Fine. (Though I hope you can have more intelligent conversation than that.)
"Person X is stupid" - Not OK.
I think this is where one would have to stand up and say it's better to be thought of as an idiot than to open up their mouth and remove all doubt. Wow. Real intelligence showing there. :o
Ok a bit about me, the face behind the @$$Hole, yes it will be on topic, and polite.
I have to admit, you guys really got me thinking, cant sleep because of it :P
Back in the day I founded the Triple Rose Clan, it was a small group, we kept it very secret. Our purpose was to prepare for when the time comes. We was organized, if we had a dispute, it stayed in the clan, we was family. Then came the Whalley house, lived with a voodoo specialist. She lured my legal advisor into her trap, but failed in keeping him. She tried for Vernon, but I helped show her true colors to him. I flirted with the 'itch. The 'itch's on/off ex bf, raped my sister on new years eve. I swore Id kill him, I planned it out, had the perfect alibi. I laid in the bed for nearly a month, near death, before any one thought of calling 911. They came and I died on the way to the hospital. I saw things... I was free, it felt good. In ER they brought me back obviously, I was in a coma in the icu ward. I saw more stuff, I saw thieves, I saw misery, I saw anger, I saw pain, I saw hope, I saw love, I saw my whole family die, I saw the war, I saw my death, I saw what happens to me after I die. I saw the end of time...
I shared this info with a few clan members. In the hospital's bed, I heard Gyzmo meow in my ear, he was murdered by the lady across the street, with anti-freeze. So I am discharged and spend New Years with my brother ( my personal physic) and a clan member. The voodoo 'itch gets wind that I am out of the hospital and leaves town with her ex bf. Life carries on, then my sister brings in an outsider into the clan. Due to the heart ache that was caused, I had to disassemble the group. Only two members have followed me into my next wave, anti-humankind, ie no religion, no government, anything that gives humankind a chance to influence others. We became pirates, we do have a third, he does not practice, but is very interested in the supernatural, and is even willing to learn. I know my apprentice still meditates, not to sure bout the other, I never see him. We kinda all do our own thing. Me I may occasionally read my runes, or dowse. Rest of the old group including my sister who was blood, I do not talk to no more. I hope this helps clear up some of the reasons why I am such an aggressively rude person. I have not shared this info in many years, not many ppl know of this. I guess it would be nice to try to trust again, it will be hard thing for me to do. I know this is technically not scientific proof of life after death. But if I said I saw on the history channel as a kid, a machine that measures the exact time the deceased soul exits the body.. you guys wouldn't believe me, so I had to offer a lame @$$ link instead. Then all hell broke out..
P.S. I am Full blood witch (warlock, for I am male), my mom was a German gypsy family, and my dad, is just extremely wise and spiritual, for not having much information on it. My mom, dad, both sisters, step brother, and I are very old souls. Silvia Brown says so, in one of her books.. Any one who is disabled, (Both my sisters, my step brother, and I) has aids, cancer, or any other life threatening disease, ( My dad had a rare strand of cancer, my mom is diabetic) according to her, this makes us old.
: RoadKill July 20, 2010, 02:53:36 -06:00
I know this is technically not scientific proof of life after death. But if I said I saw on the history channel as a kid, a machine that measures the exact time the deceased soul exits the body.. you guys wouldn't believe me, so I had to offer a lame @$$ link instead.
I understand what you mean. It's hard to describe one's own personal experience in a single message box.. sometimes it's convenient to link to pop songs, science tv shows, stuff like that, even if they often miss the mark.
: RoadKill July 20, 2010, 02:53:36 -06:00
My mom, dad, both sisters, step brother, and I are very old souls.
Interesting, I told you the same thing in a chat the other day -- that you seem at least twice your age.
I couldn't post a link to what I saw in my experience and since I was a kid I couldn't remember the name of the machine they used to prove life after death, or at least when the soul leaves the body, besides I briefly said history channel last night, um I think it would've been discovery channel, or one of them educational channels. Even tho in most eyes I am immature, childish even. I assure you thats just me dumbing things down for every one else. Not saying any one is dumb, or at least I wont post it. :P (If u wanna comment bout it, do it in the diss rk thread) But yes even professional doctors say that I am way to advanced for my age.,.. Little they know, is that I been here many many years, plus I have been branded with the all knowing eye, for a reason... The druid had to consult his elders to see if I was allowed to bare such a mark.
wow i missed something.. I'm disappointed to see that those who don't believe in this thread on this topic are so aggressive to others who think differently. I would hope that they could be more respectful. an example... not come and post on a topic you have no desire for. It's like I'm watching a scientific jerk looking for a fight because they are scared of things they cannot explain through their science.... YET.
I will never go on someones thread on a topic that I have nothing but animosity for. It's a aggressive move not a positive one.
I thought this place was somewhere people of OUR KIND could talk about things that interest many to bond. If I wanted so much rude hostility I would go on facebook or some stupid dating site.
I am a WITCH. I also have a deep history of family members who are in the magical ways. I have lived my whole life seeing things others can't, feeling others feelings and helping people spiritually. I had a coven for a large part of my life. (solitary now)
When some one asks me to prove my powers I use my strongest skill which is clairsentience.
to those who came to this thread because they are INTERESTED in sharing experiences, need healing, want guidance please message me so the people who clearly have nothing nice to say can't hurt your feelings or beliefs.
I hope everyone who is still following this thread will please show everyone. EVERYONE some respect. It's ok to have different feelings and beliefs and no you cannot force others to change that. so please do not be rude.
questions that show real interest and not some ploy to get someone to "mess up" is most welcome. talk to us like you want us to talk to you.
an ye harm none, do what thee will
blessed be
I had a few wiccan friends that lived in Maple Place, I think Ozzy still does live there today. They have introduced me originally to the wiccan religion. I lived in the apartments next to em, they was brown, but now are painted. I was in the back building on the second floor. Bear taught me meditation there, we would be sitting there and knives and forks would fly at bear. A cup of cold coffee flew at me, it was lifted above the money I had on the table, plus my hat, and landed on my head. Or the time I'm sitting there and I watch the loaf of bread go flying off the table... turned out it was their way of getting me to communicate with them. Best one ever, Bear and I are playing games or something, and all we hear is thump, thump, bang from upstairs, Yea up stairs was noisy since I moved in. I sent bear up there to tell em to shut the F'ck up, I hear bear's loud bang at the door, followed by thumps upstairs.. Bear returns and say he can hear the bangs on the other side of the door, as he was knocking. A lady down the hall opens her door, for like I said bear knocked real loud, the lady says excuse me sir, but no one lives there. Turned out it was an old man who was lonely, so I invited him to hang downstairs. The thumping stopped and never returned.
Another place comes to mind, I remember when I lived in hall road, Newton... I had a restless spirit in the coat closet. I lost alot of sh't due to her. Lights turn on, off, then she threw all of my games to the floor... lost hundreds of bucks... Dude came by, and offered to rid my place of her. I knew how to do it, but I prefer to let others do their show. He was a good man, I kinda miss him.
Oh yea there was the demon dog I saw in Calgary Forest Lawn area... My brother as seen the same thing, he was telling me when I lived with him in Princeton, I never told any one that, till after he told me first, I thought I was seeing things. Victoria is another hot spot.
Now a days I just have the 3 main spirit friends that I chat with, sometimes a few others from the past says hi, but meh lol How ever they do wish I'd meditate more often, city life is to active mentally for me to find time, and when I do have time I'm already drained. I've seen so much, I just dont have enough time to properly share my knowledge with any one. I tried when I did have time, and humankind shot me down, so I gave up... most of it is coming to my grave with me.
I believe in things like that, though my passion for it waxes and wanes. I've done a lot of "looking into" various religions, such as wicca...the jury's still out on whether I really want to be attached to one, or stay the way I am for now. I'm currently getting into reading runes, and I do a little bit of Tarot, albeit not very well. ::)
Hehe I love paranormal stuff! I get scared easily.... but it's fun! And I believe in ghosts ^_^
: Lamb July 24, 2010, 01:39:02 -06:00
Hehe I love paranormal stuff! I get scared easily.... but it's fun! And I believe in ghosts ^_^
Heh, me too !! lol =^_^=
I love the thrill u get when searching out ghosts, it can not be mimicked by anything, I like to think :P Ghosts used to be scary to me, but I was a kid and didnt know what was going on, so I started reading books on them, and here I am :P
i've seen a lot of stuff and ghosts dont scare me any more but they do startle me once and a while still
Yea at times when not expected, they could be a tad startling :P
: RoadKill July 20, 2010, 02:53:36 -06:00
P.S. I am Full blood witch (warlock, for I am male), my mom was a German gypsy family, and my dad, is just extremely wise and spiritual, for not having much information on it. My mom, dad, both sisters, step brother, and I are very old souls. Silvia Brown says so, in one of her books.. Any one who is disabled, (Both my sisters, my step brother, and I) has aids, cancer, or any other life threatening disease, ( My dad had a rare strand of cancer, my mom is diabetic) according to her, this makes us old.
Not to be rude, but to call yourself a Warlock shows just how much studying you have been and makes you look like a noob. Warlock means "oathbreaker" or "deceiver."
Male or female, you are a witch.
: Wrath July 26, 2010, 05:21:23 -06:00
Not to be rude, but to call yourself a Warlock shows just how much studying you have been and makes you look like a noob. Warlock means "oathbreaker" or "deceiver."
Male or female, you are a witch.
Lmao wow I knew I'd be called on that!!!!!! Btw I never take any Oaths, plus I deceive on a regular basis, its who I am, I am not a witch ty :P
I do not follow any gods/goddesses. ( I acknowledge their existence and purpose)
I do not follow any man/woman (Includes anything in writing also, so yes you are right, I have not studied, at least not in book form. B4 I get called out again, yes I know I have said
: RoadKill July 24, 2010, 08:53:28 -06:00
Ghosts used to be scary to me, but I was a kid and didnt know what was going on, so I started reading books on them, and here I am :P
The books I am referring to are soft covers at the elementary school library in which I attended, In general reading is something that I do not do well.)
I do not care if any one looks at me like a noob, I know what I need to know, thats all I care bout.
Yes I do realize I walk the path by myself due to the choices I have made, however I feel society itself has molded me that way.
Yet another reason why I sing and dance to my own tune :P
~Btw are wiccans taught tolerance of others? regardless if the person in question knows anything or not?
Correct me if I'm wrong LOL
Well glad that you cleared up the Warlock thing then. I am glad you didn't make that mistake that many guys do calling themselves a Warlock, and then from there on it's "OH SHI-".
It makes me a happy Kelpie.
And there's many aspects of practicing Wicca. Solitary Wicca is where a person practices themselves and follows their own path based on intuition. And as far as I know, Wiccans are taught to not harm themselves or others. I don't know if that has anything to do with tolerance.
: Wrath July 27, 2010, 05:24:58 -06:00
Well glad that you cleared up the Warlock thing then. I am glad you didn't make that mistake that many guys do calling themselves a Warlock, and then from there on it's "OH SHI-".
It makes me a happy Kelpie.
And there's many aspects of practicing Wicca. Solitary Wicca is where a person practices themselves and follows their own path based on intuition. And as far as I know, Wiccans are taught to not harm themselves or others. I don't know if that has anything to do with tolerance.
No worries all is good. Yea I'm solitary, less stressful I find. And regarding tolerance I might be confused with other religions, my bad if thats the case.
people who follow Wicca have the first rule " an ye harm none, do what thee will" so.. that could be looked at as accepting others and respecting others.
we strongly believe the three fold law as well.
what you do comes back to you three fold, good or bad.
I try to respect others but some people..m its just impossible. lol
Ditto on the 3 fold law, Ive seen it in action b4 :)
im soo in to this but never spoke a bout it for fear of ppl thinking im crazy . i *dream* alot .. mostly of spirits with messages .. and my furut .. only 2 weeks ahead warning me of bad times to come .. i just reacntly found out both of my cubs talk to spritis. being cree i got scared and i smudged them and my apartment cause they came from a huanted farm house. didnt want any thing bad following them. not only that i wanted to protect them from the spirits there just to young to under stand or do any thing a bout it .
any one willing to read my tarot cards?
i do tarot card reading but not for free :P
I used to dabble in new age astrology during my high school years. I didn't take it terribly seriously though, even screwed around with a ouiji board once. :P I couldn't get the bloody thing to work though, just lucky I guess.
: Renwaldo September 03, 2010, 11:06:11 -06:00
I used to dabble in new age astrology during my high school years. I didn't take it terribly seriously though, even screwed around with a ouiji board once. :P I couldn't get the bloody thing to work though, just lucky I guess.
Aren't Ouiji boards very bad? xD
I wouldn't know. I couldn't get the one I borrowed to talk to me at all. :-X
Must have a weak aura or something, lol.
Lmao maybe there wasn't anything paranormal anyway?
It's like trying to work a clock without batteries =]
Perhaps. I always thought the idea behind ouiji boards was that you could summon spirits to you?
oh if you want paranormal bring ouiji board over to my place hella haunted
Where do you live? Just asking out of curiosity, I'm not going to show up uninvited or anything. :P
As far as I know, a Ouiji Board makes it much worse. =\
I speak to the spirits often. I am a bridge between the dualities, so to speak, so it's interesting to come into contact with those who've crossed. Animal or auratic, I have a lot of fun and enjoyment being able to be astral in my earthly form as well as spiritual. :)
: Zythren September 03, 2010, 11:55:00 -06:00
It's like trying to work a clock without batteries =]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock)
Clocks have been working without batteries for a long time, just saying :)
I'm an indigo child. ._.;;
What's an indigo child?
From what I understand indigo children are born with the ability to see people's auras, which allows them to see what kind of person they are, what state of health they are in... But google it. I have only heard little snippits about them, and I should also brush up on my knowledge of them.
My bro and I both have the ability to see auras. 97% of people are born as indigo children but most lose their abilities as they grow older. Then there's the rare few like myself where they still have those abilities even in adulthood.
i wrote a several page song about a furry planet
a furry plant sounds fun XD
sure does :birdy: :birdy: :birdy: :birdy: :birdy: :birdy:
Actually, I think it was the paranormal community that brought me to the furry one in the first place. I used to moderate / op / run a number of IRC based communities that were on paranormal stuff (and one forum)... oh and also two otherkin communities... I'm not really proud of those moments in my life... >.<
if ever our paths cross, and time/space allows, feel free to ask of my thoughts and experiences in all this.
seems to my recall, i explored quite a few facets of all this years ago.
i should remember to do a panel on this someday.