BC Furries

Hello fellow BC fur fans!

As you may have already gleaned from the subject of this post: I am interested in learning about your personal stance on the topic of adult furry art in the fandom. Every fandom has this side of it more or less, but it's the furry fandom that seems to get the most flack for it from the public eye.

So how do you feel about adult art in the fandom?  Is it a plus? Does it not make a difference? Or do you feel it's detrimental to the fandom as a whole? And ultimately how do you feel about the artists that draw the adult material?

Personally I enjoy working on adult material. Mostly because I find it's the easiest way to elicit an emotional response from the viewer and because the adult work tends to pay more than the general stuff. I feel it's just part of the experience and helps some people feel closer to their furry personas.

I'm sure this has been asked many times before, in one form or another, but I specifically want to get the BC community's view on the matter. I encourage you to post your views as well as vote, but I understand if you'd want to only vote in order to remain anonymous on the matter.

I look forward to reading your responses!

Regards,
-UBA

: UBA  November 08, 2015, 10:47:41 -07:00
Hello fellow BC fur fans!

As you may have already gleaned from the subject of this post: I am interested in learning about your personal stance on the topic of adult furry art in the fandom. Every fandom has this side of it more or less, but it's the furry fandom that seems to get the most flack for it from the public eye.

So how do you feel about adult art in the fandom?  Is it a plus? Does it not make a difference? Or do you feel it's detrimental to the fandom as a whole? And ultimately how do you feel about the artists that draw the adult material?

Personally I enjoy working on adult material. Mostly because I find it's the easiest way to elicit an emotional response from the viewer and because the adult work tends to pay more than the general stuff. I feel it's just part of the experience and helps some people feel closer to their furry personas.

I'm sure this has been asked many times before, in one form or another, but I specifically want to get the BC community's view on the matter. I encourage you to post your views as well as vote, but I understand if you'd want to only vote in order to remain anonymous on the matter.

I look forward to reading your responses!

Regards,
-UBA

How do I feel about adult magazines in the store?  They are there and I have the opportunity to look through them if I choose to do so.  If I choose not to do so, that is good too.  So long as proper safeguards are put up, assuming these are posted on a separate page, such as - STOP .... You are about to enter adult content - blah blah, then there shouldn't be a problem.
If there is a survey, put me down as neutral.

This is one of those debates that has existed very nearly as long as the fandom has. I remember the whole burned fur movement back in the day, and not a lot has changed since then, really. (Though the tolerance level of furries has probably gotten better, in my opinion)

Still, it's important to understand that while some (read: many) aspects of the furry community is sexualized, it's not all there is to it, and it's not something everyone is here for. I think we're long past the point of sex not being associated with the fandom, though.

To answer the actual question, I personally think furry porn is great, and wish you nothing but the best of luck in your continued creation of twisted works for deviants like me.

The type of people who are usually interested in furry are almost always interested in adult material too. People are going to draw it regardless of the fandom or not. And there's a great deal of people who aren't interested in the fandom but are interested in the adult material.

It's not really something I begrudge people for indulging in (especially since I indulge in it myself). I just see it as part of the appeal.

Some excellent responses so far! It's great being able to hear each of your personal takes on the matter. Keep em coming!  :D

Every fandom I've ever been a part of has it's adult side, such as anime. I've never felt like one fandom really had more or less then another. I feel as though it's just a human thing, rule 34 right? xD

I'm perfectly fine with it. And for those who aren't, artists just need to make sure they mark their art as Mature or NSFW so others can avoid it. Also artists who draw at meetups or conventions should be aware of where they are and if they're drawing graphic porn that it may make others uncomfortable. There's a time and a place for every thing, just use common sense.

I always like to say that I am among a minority of furs who don't really see a lot of appeal in adult-themed art. Of course, it depends on how we define what "adult art" is if its nudity/porn or mild to extreme fetish art and so on. I do indulge in some fetish art that does not include much nudity or vanilla sexual themes mainly because I don't see a large appeal in that but some would still classify it as "adult art" just based on the nature of what it is and the audience it appeals to.

With that being said, I have no objection to artists wanting to draw such art in the community. You'll find it wherever you go. I think it is important to have that artistic freedom in such a large and diversified community of people alongside other talents, and that is a beauty.

: Nostalgicmon  November 08, 2015, 07:55:15 -07:00Of course, it depends on how we define what "adult art" is if its nudity/porn or mild to extreme fetish art and so on.

I think anything that would make you nervous if your employer saw it as your phone background would be classified as "adult art"

: Nostalgicmon  November 08, 2015, 07:55:15 -07:00
I always like to say that I am among a minority of furs who don't really see a lot of appeal in adult-themed art. Of course, it depends on how we define what "adult art" is if its nudity/porn or mild to extreme fetish art and so on.

I would say anything that was designed explicitly to illicit arousal can be safely classified as adult art.

: Nibi  November 08, 2015, 06:13:12 -07:00I'm perfectly fine with it. And for those who aren't, artists just need to make sure they mark their art as Mature or NSFW so others can avoid it. Also artists who draw at meetups or conventions should be aware of where they are and if they're drawing graphic porn that it may make others uncomfortable. There's a time and a place for every thing, just use common sense.

And I totally agree with that sentiment. I am not one for shoving my work into people's faces, and certainly not if they find the content offensive. I make sure to do the very things you've stated here. My goal is to get a feel for everyone's view on an artist who isn't afraid to draw adult material in general. Because I am very clearly just that.

I should maybe append to this thread another question: If you met an artist in person, and you knew they drew furry porn, would you immediately think less of them and try not to associate yourself with said artist? Or would you be able to see past that and not judge? (I would say hypothetically, but it's pretty obvious I'm putting myself into that scenario :P)

Thanks again for participating, everyone! I really appreciate it.

~UBA

I draw/write adult furry stuff because it's fun and there's a lot of creativity to what goes into a piece of drawing/story (the best ones tend to have a lot of them!)

I think it's one way of expressing yourself and who you are through a means in which you normally wouldn't get to do.

Though it does make it hard sometimes ^^;

Like when I say I'm an artist to people and show them the one bit of sfw work I have to show.

i guess i got into the furry fandom after i discovered the art. it did solidify my realization of being furry. that is both from adult and regular art.

personally, im not that sexual so i like the art to express those feelings that i might not have, or i guess since certain imagery isnt in real life, then it provides the escalism for it. i am very picky about the theme or content of the nsfw stuff, but otherwise i really enjoy the tame, cute, and cuddly stuff the most. thats what i miss most in real life so that is what i like to see on the internet.

if and when i do meet an artist in real life, i have nothing but respect for them. whether it is considered porn or not, art is a valuable skill, and it should never be held back. if someone is restricted from expessing their talent or thoughts, then that is never good. as for what some may find more disturbing, it is just your level of comfor and you are free to sift through it or retrict yourself on what you view.

i have written stories, and read a lot as well and they provide a lot of fulfillment for emotions that we dont always get to feel (besides loneliness, hehe). it takes a lot of effort to art and i am impressed and extremely grateful to those that put themselves out there and share it with us. it has honestly saved my life on more than one occasion!

eh, could be better. Would be nice if they incorporated more Tercels.

: ppakky  November 12, 2015, 07:09:30 -07:00
eh, could be better. Would be nice if they incorporated more Tercels.

Are you referring to the Toyota Car? The Tercel?

Because... that's a specific fetish
(http://i.imgur.com/WeerA.jpg)

The adult side of the fandom is something I have embraced with much gusto. Then again my overall take on sexuality is "Its a part of being human, don't be ashamed of yourself!" This also applies in terms of furry as well. Adult content will always exist because our main age demographic is pretty much everyone who has hit puberty... but hasn't hit their sexual decline years, sooo a no brainier.

In terms of art, I draw a significant amount of adult content. Most of it is for my own eyes and tastes because I do enjoy seeing me as my dragon self doing what I am am curious about IRL.. just in a much more identifiable form, but thats a whole other subject. Its all a part of exploring myself in different ways. I also love seeing adult art from others because I get to learn a little bit about them in the process, what they like, who they want to be. There is a lotta porn for porns sake out there, but there is also very intimate and even kinky works that really amount to much more than just "heee, that guy spooged on that fox". I like to try and embrace and support people for that side of them because it takes a LOT of guts and faith to put yourself out there in that way, even in the furry fandom. We still got our groups and types who are very sexually uncomfortable and are of the mindset that others should be that way too and that is also something that wont ever change due to a plethora of social and mental variables, so I do what I can in my own lill bubble to support and encourage people on that front because its one of the many spices of life!

For that same reason I feel very strongly against censorship and sexual shaming, as I view those things as detrimental to ones well being and enjoyment of life overall.

: Drake Wingfire  November 12, 2015, 11:33:26 -07:00
The adult side of the fandom is something I have embraced with much gusto. Then again my overall take on sexuality is "Its a part of being human, don't be ashamed of yourself!" This also applies in terms of furry as well. Adult content will always exist because our main age demographic is pretty much everyone who has hit puberty... but hasn't hit their sexual decline years, sooo a no brainier.

In terms of art, I draw a significant amount of adult content. Most of it is for my own eyes and tastes because I do enjoy seeing me as my dragon self doing what I am am curious about IRL.. just in a much more identifiable form, but thats a whole other subject. Its all a part of exploring myself in different ways. I also love seeing adult art from others because I get to learn a little bit about them in the process, what they like, who they want to be. There is a lotta porn for porns sake out there, but there is also very intimate and even kinky works that really amount to much more than just "heee, that guy spooged on that fox". I like to try and embrace and support people for that side of them because it takes a LOT of guts and faith to put yourself out there in that way, even in the furry fandom. We still got our groups and types who are very sexually uncomfortable and are of the mindset that others should be that way too and that is also something that wont ever change due to a plethora of social and mental variables, so I do what I can in my own lill bubble to support and encourage people on that front because its one of the many spices of life!

For that same reason I feel very strongly against censorship and sexual shaming, as I view those things as detrimental to ones well being and enjoyment of life overall.

I think that's why I enjoy writing yiff stories a lot. It's a way of expressing myself personally that I really don't get to do a lot of IRL, mainly because who I am inside is different then the impression I give

I am not really a big fan of them and if I see them posted all the time from a FA user I will unfollow them, I'm just weird that way. I don't like seeing it in my face all the time lol, I know people like it and can't complain but I'm not really all for it like a lot of people are.

: Owl  November 12, 2015, 07:29:25 -07:00
Are you referring to the Toyota Car? The Tercel?

They're cute. :gay: :gay: :gay:


WeerA.jpg  :roll: that file name.  ;D

I appreciate it when it is indeed art. There are sexualized animal paintings from as far back as 5000BC during the Babylonian empire. I don't like porn per-se I find it somewhat vulgar. Erotic artwork however is different as it generally has self respect for itself as art first and foremost. I also include written works with this which are so often forgotten.

: Samurai Kai  November 13, 2015, 07:49:45 -07:00
I am not really a big fan of them and if I see them posted all the time from a FA user I will unfollow them, I'm just weird that way. I don't like seeing it in my face all the time lol, I know people like it and can't complain but I'm not really all for it like a lot of people are.

You can set FA and SF to SFW mode, and it will filter out anything that's rated adult content. Seems a shame to unfollow an artist you enjoy just because they upload adult stuff. o.=.O

I love adult furry art and I don't really see why people get so bent out of shape about it. Porn exists in every facet of the human mind to people who enjoy getting aroused. Most of the people I know who dislike porn usually aren't big fans of sex in the first place. Not everyone is wired with a high sex drive and that's totally okay for them. Pretty much every fandom has its adult content regardless of what it is. Rule 34 exists for a reason.

Most of the people I know who really enjoy their furry porn aren't even as perverted as you'd think. I actually treat smutty artwork the same way I treat regular artwork: it's something cool to look at, just a little more risque and taboo, that's fun to share with like-minded people who enjoy the same thing. It's kinda like a secret trophy collection that I don't let everyone see.

As an artist, drawing it is way more fun than drawing clean art, to me. I can't really explain why. Some of the poses and expressions can be really creative that you don't otherwise find in clean art. It's also about creating something more intimate than regular artwork. And again, it's just that taboo feeling that you're creating something that not everybody is going to get to view. It's kindof a chance to explore alternative interests without having to feel secluded and isolated. There are a lot of fetishes out there that can be viewed as completely outlandish, and outright shunned by some groups of people. You can explore things without actually having to act out on them physically, and decide for yourself whether or not you think you'd enjoy it. And if you don't have a great imagination, getting someone else to draw it for you is a great way to materialize it.

There is a stupid stigma with the furry community where everyone thinks it's all about sex. Guess what? FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT IS. You're not going to be able to get around the fact that some people are simply here for the eroticism and that's their prerogative. Most everyone else got here through more innocent channels and discovered it later on and found they liked it. Others remain completely free of it altogether. We're all human beings. Everyone is different. Lots of folks are quick to arouse and furry porn just happens to be their jam. Others like it but it's not the reason they're here. What's important is that this community is chock-full of creativity that you'd be challenged to discover in any one place other than here. You can't beat the fact that we have a MASSIVE amount of imagination for such a budding community and it sucks that people have to separate it into good-side/bad-side/WTF-side.

: Neox  January 18, 2016, 09:07:31 -07:00
You can set FA and SF to SFW mode, and it will filter out anything that's rated adult content. Seems a shame to unfollow an artist you enjoy just because they upload adult stuff. o.=.O

I love adult furry art and I don't really see why people get so bent out of shape about it. Porn exists in every facet of the human mind to people who enjoy getting aroused. Most of the people I know who dislike porn usually aren't big fans of sex in the first place. Not everyone is wired with a high sex drive and that's totally okay for them. Pretty much every fandom has its adult content regardless of what it is. Rule 34 exists for a reason.

Most of the people I know who really enjoy their furry porn aren't even as perverted as you'd think. I actually treat smutty artwork the same way I treat regular artwork: it's something cool to look at, just a little more risque and taboo, that's fun to share with like-minded people who enjoy the same thing. It's kinda like a secret trophy collection that I don't let everyone see.

As an artist, drawing it is way more fun than drawing clean art, to me. I can't really explain why. Some of the poses and expressions can be really creative that you don't otherwise find in clean art. It's also about creating something more intimate than regular artwork. And again, it's just that taboo feeling that you're creating something that not everybody is going to get to view. It's kindof a chance to explore alternative interests without having to feel secluded and isolated. There are a lot of fetishes out there that can be viewed as completely outlandish, and outright shunned by some groups of people. You can explore things without actually having to act out on them physically, and decide for yourself whether or not you think you'd enjoy it. And if you don't have a great imagination, getting someone else to draw it for you is a great way to materialize it.

There is a stupid stigma with the furry community where everyone thinks it's all about sex. Guess what? FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT IS. You're not going to be able to get around the fact that some people are simply here for the eroticism and that's their prerogative. Most everyone else got here through more innocent channels and discovered it later on and found they liked it. Others remain completely free of it altogether. We're all human beings. Everyone is different. Lots of folks are quick to arouse and furry porn just happens to be their jam. Others like it but it's not the reason they're here. What's important is that this community is chock-full of creativity that you'd be challenged to discover in any one place other than here. You can't beat the fact that we have a MASSIVE amount of imagination for such a budding community and it sucks that people have to separate it into good-side/bad-side/WTF-side.

I'm aware, I just don't fancy that sort of thing.

: Samurai Kai  January 19, 2016, 07:36:25 -07:00
I'm aware, I just don't fancy that sort of thing.

Sorry. Only the first line was meant for you; the rest of my response was to the topic in general. :P

To each their own. There are pieces of adult art that I can appreciate in the same way that one can appreciate the many nude paintings and statues done by various Renaissance artists. At the same time, there are also pieces of adult art that leave me tempted to ask "Why does this exist?" or "What is wrong with you?", if not soliciting a NOPE before I move on. This isn't necessarily an argument against such artists, who may have been commissioned to do the piece instead of doing their own, but if there's any sort of consistency to the matter it's that people tend to be... creative when it comes to the topic of reproduction, logic and reasoning be damned.

Nothing saying that this can't lead to fridge brilliance though, and I can think of at least one fetish that does so.

: ChapterAquila92  January 22, 2016, 07:46:06 -07:00
To each their own. There are pieces of adult art that I can appreciate in the same way that one can appreciate the many nude paintings and statues done by various Renaissance artists. At the same time, there are also pieces of adult art that leave me tempted to ask "Why does this exist?" or "What is wrong with you?", if not soliciting a NOPE before I move on. This isn't necessarily an argument against such artists, who may have been commissioned to do the piece instead of doing their own, but if there's any sort of consistency to the matter it's that people tend to be... creative when it comes to the topic of reproduction, logic and reasoning be damned.

Nothing saying that this can't lead to fridge brilliance though, and I can think of at least one fetish that does so.

One of the things I've learned that has made me more tolerant to the world in-general is this:

You have no control over determining the things you enjoy and the things you don't.

A lot of stuff you see in furry art is way... WAY out there. I'm not just talking left-field; I'm talking completely out of the ball park and several blocks over at the lawn bowling pitch. For many people, sexual arousal no longer has a single iota to do with reproduction, logic or reasoning. For our species, sex has become more about hedonistic impulses instead of reproductive instincts. Much of the "WTF" art you see is only there because the person who drew or commissioned it decided to open themselves up to it rather than try to hide it. To put it into perspective: I'm sure there are a lot of people here who can sympathize with knowing what it's like coming to grips with realizing they are homosexual. It's an identity they probably didn't want to admit to themselves in the beginning, much less tell anyone else about it. These unorthodox fetishes manifest within people is much the same way.

But you hit the nail on the head in your first sentence. "To each their own."  :)

: Neox  January 22, 2016, 10:44:15 -07:00
One of the things I've learned that has made me more tolerant to the world in-general is this:

You have no control over determining the things you enjoy and the things you don't.

True, provided that you have sufficient interest in it to find out. Whether or not you can find interest is a different story altogether.

A lot of stuff you see in furry art is way... WAY out there. I'm not just talking left-field; I'm talking completely out of the ball park and several blocks over at the lawn bowling pitch. For many people, sexual arousal no longer has a single iota to do with reproduction, logic or reasoning. For our species, sex has become more about hedonistic impulses instead of reproductive instincts. Much of the "WTF" art you see is only there because the person who drew or commissioned it decided to open themselves up to it rather than try to hide it. To put it into perspective: I'm sure there are a lot of people here who can sympathize with knowing what it's like coming to grips with realizing they are homosexual. It's an identity they probably didn't want to admit to themselves in the beginning, much less tell anyone else about it. These unorthodox fetishes manifest within people is much the same way.

The thing is that hedonism stems from both primal instinct - particularly the four Fs (Fighting, Fleeing, Feeding, and F***ing) - and an aptitude for invention as a means of maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain (at least, in those who aren't sadists or masochists). It just happens that reproduction in humans is a function of that last F, which is why I make that association even though sex can also serve as a means of social bonding or asserting dominance.

My comment about logic and reason was more about needing not apply in circumstances involving fetishes. But hey, some people are wired differently.

As for any closet issues involved, we're back to the "To each their own" mantra, perhaps with a little bit of "Don't ask, don't tell" and a few others depending on the circumstance, and that goes with any life experience. How this applies specifically to fetishes is superficial at best however - fetishes don't normally change a person or their outlook on life.

while I love looking it makes me rather depressed because its not real, but I want it, I want a relationship like some of the furs in the art have and as such, while I do still look at it from time to time, I don't go out of my way to do so